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Trice's take

Posted By: Chase
Date: Friday, 15 March 2013, at 6:03 p.m.

In Response To: 31P-41S-61 — Unlimited Games — 3-ply XG2 Rollout (Taper_Mike)

Coincidentally, I was reading Trice's Backgammon Boot Camp yesterday and came across this very position (page 90, Position 2-11). Trice concludes that 24/18 6/5 wins the most games, but that 8/2*/1* "wins so many more gammons that it is slightly better in money play."

If I recall, Trice was using gnuBG for his rollouts for these articles and typically did only 300 trials. Anyone have or know of a list of positions in his book which are overturned by newer bots on higher settings?

Messages In This Thread

• 3rd roll: 31P 51S 61: ?
  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 5:06 p.m.
  • Rather: 31P *41S* 61: ? NT *NM*
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 5:11 p.m.
    • Rather: 31P *41S* 61: ? NT
      bob koca -- Friday, 13 July 2007, at 2:50 a.m.
  • 3rd roll: 31P 51S 61: ?
    Stick -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 5:23 p.m.
    • 3rd roll: 31P 51S 61: ?
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 5:45 p.m.
      • 3rd roll: 31P 51S 61: ?
        Stick -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 5:57 p.m.
        • 3rd roll: 31P 51S 61: ?
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 6:12 p.m.
          • 3rd roll: 31P 51S 61: ?
            Stick -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 6:16 p.m.
            • 3rd roll: 31P 41S 61: !!!
              neilkaz -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 7:04 p.m.
              • 3rd roll: 31P 41S 61: !!!
                bob koca -- Saturday, 14 July 2007, at 3:08 a.m.
          • 3rd roll: 31P 51S 61: ?
            Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 8:39 p.m.
            • 3rd roll: 31P 51S 61: ?
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 8:53 p.m.
              • 3rd roll: 31P 51S 61: ?
                Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 9:21 p.m.
      • Post ur rollout pls
        neilkaz -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 6:11 p.m.
  • 3rd roll: 31P 51S 61: ?
    Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 8:15 p.m.
  • What did Robertie say?? *NM*
    Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 8:17 p.m.
    • What did Robertie say??
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 8:36 p.m.
      • What did Robertie say??
        Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 8:48 p.m.
        • Yes. *NM*
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 12 July 2007, at 8:59 p.m.
  • 31P-41S-61 — Unlimited Games — 3-ply XG2 Rollout
    Taper_Mike -- Friday, 15 March 2013, at 12:43 p.m.
    • Trice's take
      Chase -- Friday, 15 March 2013, at 6:03 p.m.
      • Trice's take
        neilkaz -- Friday, 15 March 2013, at 6:44 p.m.
      • Trice's take
        storm -- Friday, 15 March 2013, at 7:19 p.m.
      • Trice's take
        Timothy Chow -- Friday, 15 March 2013, at 11:17 p.m.
        • Trice's take
          Chase -- Saturday, 16 March 2013, at 12:39 a.m.
    • Correction — Koca’s rollouts was made for “no Jacoby.”
      Taper_Mike -- Friday, 15 March 2013, at 9:23 p.m.