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ELO vs MWC questions

Posted By: Keene
Date: Sunday, 21 June 2009, at 8:32 p.m.

So, I was playing a match on GG, and a non-interesting position came up:

The score (after 2 games) is: cubed2death 4, kilted 4 (match to 7 points)

Move number 54: kilted on roll, cube decision?

cubed2death11


1X3X '1X ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '

2O3O1O ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '

kilted11

Position ID: nQAAwC4AAAAAAA Match ID: UQngAEAAIAAA

• kilted doubles

Cube decision
2-ply cubeless equity +0.569(Money: +0.569)
0.784 0.000 0.000 - 0.216 0.000 0.000
Cubeful equities:
1.Double, pass +1.000
2.Double, take +1.134 +0.134
3.No double +0.787 -0.213
Proper cube action:Redouble, pass

My opponent was thinking about it, and I mentioned to him that it was an easy MET to do the take/drop on - 22% in this position, and -3,-1 is 25%. So, easy pass. However, this got me thinking about ELO's and MWC. At what ELO difference between players does this become a take? Also, in a 1pt match, what ELO difference constitutes a 51-49, 52-48 etc.

So, my core question here is what ELO difference in skill does each 1% swing in MWC for a 1pt match equal? Also, entirely related, what ER difference is this also? i.e. If I consider myself to be a 4ER player, and I am playing a 3ER player, what does this translate to in MET terms, as obviously the MET changes based on skill differential.

In my example above, some quick calculations indicated to me that I needed to be a 54-46 favorite in overall skill difference for this position to become a take. Obviously, that must be around 150 ELO difference - but exactly what?

I think this could be a very useful tool for making these cube decisions OTB.

I suspect that Bob or Chuck may be the ideal ones to answer this question, but I welcome any and all input.

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