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German-->English translation requested

Posted By: Chuck Bower
Date: Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 5:00 p.m.

The position below got a lot of discussion + propping in Novi (specifically what are White's game winning chances after Blue's best play). I'm still intrigued and have been working with (and against :) GNU-bg ever since. I'm wondering if someone could find the time to loosely translate some of the verbage at the following site:

http://www.hardyhuebener.de/forum/index.php?topic=1018.0

There are a lot of comments there. What I'm specifically wondering is what kind of 'errors' people found GNU-bg making. If they looked at BOTH sides' play (which I think is a good idea), of course I'd like to see that, too. And whatever evidence is given for what people think the GWC for this position is -- that would be nice, too.

Please don't feel the need to spend hours on this. Just a few (or 10) minutes of summary would be greatly appreciated.

I'm going to post some personal observations but I don't really want to repeat something that has already been said.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, user 0 (match to 1 point, post-Crawford play)

Move number 4: user to play 46

gnubg	270
user	75
Position ID: GwAA+D9225YAAA Match ID: cAk6AAAAAAAA

• user moves 10/4 8/4

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	10/4 8/4	+0.7822
			0.8911 0.8245 0.7140 - 0.1089 0.0022 0.0003 +0.7822 +0.7822 0.0024 0.0038 0.0059 - 0.0024 0.0004 0.0003 0.0048 0.0048
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			4572 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 862086506 and quasi-random dice
			Play: grandmaster 3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			keep the first 0 2-ply moves and up to 2 more moves within equity 0.04
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	3	10/6 8/2	+0.9529 ( +0.1707)
			0.9764 0.9342 0.4013 - 0.0236 0.0001 0.0000
			3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
	3	3	8/2 6/2	+0.9134 ( +0.1313)
			0.9567 0.8875 0.3349 - 0.0433 0.0005 0.0000
			3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
	4	2	10/4 6/2	+0.9289 ( +0.1467)
			0.9644 0.8861 0.4895 - 0.0356 0.0001 0.0000
			2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	5	2	8/2 7/3	+0.9207 ( +0.1385)
			0.9603 0.8796 0.4977 - 0.0397 0.0001 0.0000
			2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Messages In This Thread

• German-->English translation requested
  Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 5:00 p.m.
  • German-->English translation requested
    Matt Reklaitis -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 8:13 p.m.
  • 6/2 really crazy?
    Matt Reklaitis -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 8:31 p.m.
  • German-->English translation requested
    Maik Stiebler -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 9:22 p.m.
  • more data
    Matt Reklaitis -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 5:07 p.m.
    • Amazing coincidental posts!
      Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 5:09 p.m.
      • Amazing coincidental posts!
        Matt Reklaitis -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 5:37 p.m.
    • my non-statsig running result
      Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 6:58 p.m.
      • my non-statsig running result
        Matt Reklaitis -- Monday, 13 July 2009, at 9:15 p.m.
  • hybrid play-from-here technique
    Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 5:07 p.m.