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Baffled by bots here. Help!

Posted By: Daniel Murphy
Date: Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 7:45 p.m.

In Response To: Baffled by bots here. Help! (Neil Robins)

I think the results below, with Version 0.15-mingw (build Jul 4 2007), match Neil's.

The score (after 0 games) is: White 2, Blue 3 (match to 5 points)

Move number 3: Blue on roll, cube decision?

White	14
Blue	17
Position ID: gwEAQCoAAAAAAA Match ID: cAmgACAAGAAA

• Blue doubles

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless equity		+0.4552	(Money: +0.4552)
Cubeful equities:
1.	Double, take	+0.8468
2.	Double, pass	+1.0000	+0.1532
3.	No double	+0.6475	-0.1994
Proper cube action:		Double, take
Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Centered 1-cube 0.7276 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.2724 0.0000 0.0000 +0.4552 +0.6475 Standard error 0.0001 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.0001 0.0000 0.0000 0.0001 0.0007 Player White owns 2-cube 0.7316 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.2684 0.0000 0.0000 +1.5288 +0.8468 Standard error 0.0001 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.0001 0.0000 0.0000 0.0004 0.0005
Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
20736 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 867000880 and quasi-random dice
Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Annotation

0-ply cubeless equity +0.4707 (Money: +0.4707)
0.7353 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.2647 0.0000 0.0000
Cubeful equities:
1. Double, pass +1.0000
2. Double, take +1.4393 ( +0.4393)
3. No double +0.7513 ( -0.2487)
Proper cube action: Double, pass
--
1-ply cubeless equity +0.4341 (Money: +0.4341)
0.7171 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.2829 0.0000 0.0000
Cubeful equities:
1. Double, take +0.7311
2. Double, pass +1.0000 ( +0.2689)
3. No double +0.7246 ( -0.0065)
Proper cube action: Double, take
--
2-ply cubeless equity +0.4341 (Money: +0.4341)
0.7171 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.2829 0.0000 0.0000
Cubeful equities:
1. Double, take +0.7311
2. Double, pass +1.0000 ( +0.2689)
3. No double +0.6924 ( -0.0388)
Proper cube action: Double, take
--
3-ply cubeless equity +0.3864 (Money: +0.3864)
0.6932 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.3068 0.0000 0.0000
Cubeful equities:
1. No double +0.5993
2. Double, pass +1.0000 ( +0.4007)
3. Double, take +0.5407 ( -0.0586)
Proper cube action: No double, take (12.8%)
--
4-ply cubeless equity +0.3873 (Money: +0.3873)
0.6937 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.3063 0.0000 0.0000
Cubeful equities:
1. No double +0.5999
2. Double, pass +1.0000 ( +0.4001)
3. Double, take +0.5445 ( -0.0554)
Proper cube action: No double, take (12.2%)
--
var red = off

Cube analysis
Rollout cubeless equity +0.4562 (Money: +0.4562)

Cubeful equities:
1. Double, take +0.8362
2. Double, pass +1.0000 ( +0.1638)
3. No double +0.6559 ( -0.1803)
Proper cube action: Double, take
Rollout details:
Centered 1-cube:
0.7281 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.2719 0.0000 0.0000 CL +0.4562 CF +0.6559
[0.0025 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.0025 0.0000 0.0000 CL 0.0049 CF 0.0100]
Player White owns 2-cube:
0.7302 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.2698 0.0000 0.0000 CL +1.5215 CF +0.8362
[0.0031 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.0031 0.0000 0.0000 CL 0.0168 CF 0.0246]
Full cubeful rollout without var.redn.
20736 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 867000880 and quasi-random dice
Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Messages In This Thread

• Baffled by bots here. Help!
  Neil Robins -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 2:25 p.m.
  • Baffled by bots here. Help!
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 3:01 p.m.
    • Baffled by bots here. Help!
      Neil Robins -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 3:24 p.m.
  • 6-ply and 5-ply
    Neil Robins -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 3:09 p.m.
    • 6-ply and 5-ply
      Keene -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 4:40 p.m.
      • 7-ply, 6-ply and 5-ply
        Neil Robins -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 7:12 p.m.
        • 7-ply, 6-ply and 5-ply
          neilkaz -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 7:14 p.m.
          • Hmm same BS on my old GNU
            neilkaz -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 10:02 p.m.
  • Baffled by bots here. Help!
    Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 5:25 p.m.
    • Baffled by bots here. Help!
      Neil Robins -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 5:39 p.m.
      • Baffled by bots here. Help!
        Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 6:31 p.m.
  • A different GNU rollout result with same settings
    Neil Robins -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 6:04 p.m.
    • A different GNU rollout result with same settings
      Gregg Cattanach -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 6:11 p.m.
      • A different GNU rollout result with same settings
        Michael Petch -- Friday, 28 August 2009, at 2:58 a.m.
        • A different GNU rollout result with same settings
          Michael Petch -- Friday, 28 August 2009, at 10:58 a.m.
        • A different GNU rollout result with same settings
          Michael Petch -- Friday, 28 August 2009, at 11:16 a.m.
    • A different GNU rollout result with same settings
      Neil Robins -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 7:01 p.m.
    • A different GNU rollout result with same settings
      Michael Petch -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 7:29 p.m.
      • A different GNU rollout result with same settings
        Neil Robins -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 7:40 p.m.
    • A different GNU rollout result with same settings
      MaX -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 8:24 p.m.
      • A different GNU rollout result with same settings
        Neil Robins -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 9:05 p.m.
    • A different GNU rollout result with same settings
      Phil Simborg -- Friday, 28 August 2009, at 10:54 a.m.
      • A different GNU rollout result with same settings
        MaX -- Friday, 28 August 2009, at 2:37 p.m.
  • Baffled by bots here. Help!
    Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 7:45 p.m.
    • Baffled by bots here. Help!
      Neil Robins -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 8:25 p.m.
  • WOW !!!
    neilkaz -- Thursday, 27 August 2009, at 11:50 p.m.
  • Goes back at least 4 years
    Chuck Bower -- Friday, 28 August 2009, at 1:05 a.m.
  • Baffled by bots here. Help!
    Michael Petch -- Friday, 28 August 2009, at 3:10 a.m.
  • Rollout inconsistency of GNU repeated
    Neil Robins -- Friday, 28 August 2009, at 8:13 a.m.
    • Rollout inconsistency of GNU repeated
      Chuck Bower -- Friday, 28 August 2009, at 4:11 p.m.
      • Rollout inconsistency of GNU repeated
        Neil Robins -- Friday, 28 August 2009, at 4:55 p.m.