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Another day, another bear-in - bot data
Posted By: Daniel Murphy In Response To: Another day, another bear-in (Daniel Murphy)
Date: Saturday, 2 June 2007, at 10:36 p.m.
Thanks for your comments.
I hadn't intended to mislead anyone as to what Gnubg plays. I had evaluated 19 plays at 4-ply, botinaturally when I analyzed one more, 11/6 8/4, it turned out that 4-ply liked that play better than the rest, even though, according to Gnubg's estimate, of all the plays 10/5 8/4 attains the lowest EPC. Perhaps that's not accurate.
The score (after 4 games) is: White 4, Blue 4 (match to 7 points)
Move number 16: Blue to play 45
White 112
Blue 114 Position ID: 6D4HBwCwr7UBAA Match ID: cAn2AEAAIAAA
If you made the acepoint 6/1 5/1 you can honestly say "it may be wrong, it may be 38th best but according to the bot it's not a blunder."
Play 2-ply rank and equity 3-ply rank and equity 4-ply rank and equity EPC (not exact) 11/6 8/4 9. +0.1702 ( -0.0027) 22. +0.1607 ( -0.0062) 1. +0.1724 112.182 9/4 8/4 5. +0.1712 ( -0.0017) 21. +0.1607 ( -0.0062) 2. +0.1722 ( -0.0002) 112.070 10/6 9/4 4. +0.1716 ( -0.0013) 15. +0.1617 ( -0.0052) 3. +0.1721 ( -0.0003) 112.267 10/5 8/4 14. +0.1693 ( -0.0036) 12. +0.1623 ( -0.0046) 4. +0.1721 ( -0.0003) 111.984 11/6 9/5 2. +0.1724 ( -0.0005) 10. +0.1626 ( -0.0044) 5. +0.1720 ( -0.0004) 112.285 11/7 9/4 1. +0.1729 9. +0.1631 ( -0.0038) 6. +0.1716 ( -0.0008) 112.314 10/5 9/5 6. +0.1707 ( -0.0022) 3. +0.1645 ( -0.0024) 7. +0.1716 ( -0.0008) 112.221 10/6 10/5 11. +0.1698 ( -0.0031) 6. +0.1641 ( -0.0028) 8. +0.1713 ( -0.0011) 112.221 11/6 10/6 7. +0.1704 ( -0.0025) 17. +0.1617 ( -0.0052) 9. +0.1711 ( -0.0013) 112.598 8/4 8/3 18. +0.1674 ( -0.0055) 19. +0.1614 ( -0.0055) 10. +0.1710 ( -0.0014) 112.259 9/4 7/3 10. +0.1701 ( -0.0028) 20. +0.1612 ( -0.0057) 11. +0.1707 ( -0.0017) 112.211 11/7 10/5 3. +0.1716 ( -0.0013) 4. +0.1643 ( -0.0026) 12. +0.1705 ( -0.0019) 112.388 11/7 11/6 8. +0.1702 ( -0.0027) 1. +0.1669 13. +0.1703 ( -0.0021) 112.499 9/5 8/3 13. +0.1695 ( -0.0034) 13. +0.1622 ( -0.0047) 14. +0.1699 ( -0.0025) 112.257 10/5 7/3 16. +0.1686 ( -0.0042) 5. +0.1641 ( -0.0028) 15. +0.1699 ( -0.0025) 112.261 11/6 7/3 12. +0.1695 ( -0.0034) 7. +0.1641 ( -0.0028) 16. +0.1697 ( -0.0027) 112.460 10/6 8/3 17. +0.1684 ( -0.0044) 14. +0.1620 ( -0.0049) 17. +0.1692 ( -0.0032) 112.458 11/7 8/3 15. +0.1690 ( -0.0039) 8. +0.1637 ( -0.0032) 18. +0.1686 ( -0.0038) 112.481 8/4 7/2 23. +0.1640 ( -0.0089) 26. +0.1591 ( -0.0078) 19. +0.1655 ( -0.0069) 112.381 9/4 6/2 20. +0.1646 ( -0.0083) 23. +0.1606 ( -0.0063) 20. +0.1651 ( -0.0073) 9/5 7/2 21. +0.1645 ( -0.0084) 18. +0.1615 ( -0.0054) 21. +0.1640 ( -0.0084) 11/2 22. +0.1644 ( -0.0085) 11. +0.1624 ( -0.0045) 22. +0.1636 ( -0.0088) 112.792 10/6 7/2 19. +0.1647 ( -0.0082) 24. +0.1605 ( -0.0064) 23. +0.1634 ( -0.0091) 112.838 8/3 7/3 26. +0.1629 ( -0.0100) 2. +0.1648 ( -0.0021) 24. +0.1624 ( -0.0100) 10/5 6/2 27. +0.1625 ( -0.0104) 25. +0.1605 ( -0.0064) 25. +0.1618 ( -0.0106) 8/3 6/2 25. +0.1630 ( -0.0099) 16. +0.1617 ( -0.0052) 26. +0.1610 ( -0.0114) 112.805 8/4 6/1 34. +0.1604 ( -0.0125) 34. +0.1484 ( -0.0185) 27. +0.1608 ( -0.0116) 9/4 5/1 28. +0.1622 ( -0.0107) 28. +0.1514 ( -0.0155) 28. +0.1606 ( -0.0118) 9/5 6/1 31. +0.1617 ( -0.0112) 33. +0.1496 ( -0.0173) 29. +0.1600 ( -0.0125) 10/1 24. +0.1633 ( -0.0096) 30. +0.1507 ( -0.0162) 30. +0.1598 ( -0.0126) 112.945 11/6 5/1 30. +0.1618 ( -0.0111) 27. +0.1519 ( -0.0150) 31. +0.1596 ( -0.0128) 11/7 6/1 33. +0.1610 ( -0.0119) 29. +0.1508 ( -0.0161) 32. +0.1586 ( -0.0138) 7/3 6/1 29. +0.1620 ( -0.0109) 32. +0.1500 ( -0.0169) 33. +0.1584 ( -0.0141) 8/3 5/1 32. +0.1613 ( -0.0116) 31. +0.1501 ( -0.0168) 34. +0.1573 ( -0.0151) 7/2 5/1 35. +0.1565 ( -0.0163) 36. +0.1445 ( -0.0224) 35. +0.1506 ( -0.0218) 7/2 6/2 37. +0.1507 ( -0.0222) 35. +0.1449 ( -0.0221) 36. +0.1493 ( -0.0231) 6/2 6/1 36. +0.1522 ( -0.0206) 37. +0.1443 ( -0.0226) 37. +0.1493 ( -0.0231) 6/1 5/1 38. +0.1207 ( -0.0522) 38. +0.1109 ( -0.0560) 38. +0.1138 ( -0.0586) 113.961 I do not think this position supports the idea that 3-ply tends to play bear-ins a little better than 2-ply. But in Blue's previous position in the same game I do like 3-ply's play best:
The score (after 4 games) is: White 4, Blue 4 (match to 7 points)
Move number 14: Blue to play 45
White 119
Blue 123 Position ID: cJ8jBwCwr2wGAA Match ID: cAn2AEAAIAAA
Alert: doubtful move ( -0.016)
# Ply Move Equity 1 4 11/6 8/4 +0.0688 0.5246 0.0011 0.0000 - 0.4754 0.0008 0.0000 2 4 10/5 7/3 +0.0675 ( -0.0013) 0.5243 0.0010 0.0000 - 0.4757 0.0008 0.0000 3 4 11/7 10/5 +0.0670 ( -0.0018) 0.5241 0.0010 0.0000 - 0.4759 0.0007 0.0000 • 15 4 13/9 13/8 +0.0532 ( -0.0156) 0.5198 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.4802 0.0000 0.0000
Annotation1. Cubeful 2-ply 11/7 10/5 Eq.: +0.0967
0.5334 0.0014 0.0000 - 0.4666 0.0011 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
2. Cubeful 2-ply 11/6 7/3 Eq.: +0.0960 ( -0.0007)
0.5332 0.0014 0.0000 - 0.4668 0.0013 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
3. Cubeful 2-ply 11/6 8/4 Eq.: +0.0942 ( -0.0025)
0.5324 0.0015 0.0000 - 0.4676 0.0014 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
4. Cubeful 2-ply 11/7 8/3 Eq.: +0.0927 ( -0.0040)
0.5318 0.0014 0.0000 - 0.4682 0.0011 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
5. Cubeful 2-ply 11/2 Eq.: +0.0897 ( -0.0070)
0.5311 0.0013 0.0000 - 0.4689 0.0014 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
6. Cubeful 2-ply 10/5 7/3 Eq.: +0.0897 ( -0.0070)
0.5311 0.0016 0.0000 - 0.4689 0.0012 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
7. Cubeful 2-ply 10/5 8/4 Eq.: +0.0874 ( -0.0093)
0.5304 0.0016 0.0000 - 0.4696 0.0013 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
8. Cubeful 2-ply 11/7 11/6 Eq.: +0.0867 ( -0.0100)
0.5300 0.0014 0.0000 - 0.4700 0.0009 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
9. Cubeful 2-ply 11/6 10/6 Eq.: +0.0837 ( -0.0131)
0.5293 0.0011 0.0000 - 0.4707 0.0011 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
10. Cubeful 2-ply 11/7 6/1 Eq.: +0.0836 ( -0.0131)
0.5290 0.0012 0.0000 - 0.4710 0.0013 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
11. Cubeful 2-ply 11/6 5/1 Eq.: +0.0829 ( -0.0138)
0.5293 0.0011 0.0000 - 0.4707 0.0017 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
12. Cubeful 2-ply 8/4 7/2 Eq.: +0.0827 ( -0.0140)
0.5288 0.0018 0.0000 - 0.4712 0.0017 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
13. Cubeful 2-ply 10/6 8/3 Eq.: +0.0827 ( -0.0140)
0.5289 0.0012 0.0000 - 0.4711 0.0012 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
14. Cubeful 2-ply 10/6 7/2 Eq.: +0.0761 ( -0.0206)
0.5269 0.0011 0.0000 - 0.4731 0.0014 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
15. Cubeful 2-ply 10/6 10/5 Eq.: +0.0759 ( -0.0208)
0.5266 0.0013 0.0000 - 0.4734 0.0010 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
16. Cubeful 2-ply 13/9 13/8 Eq.: +0.0578 ( -0.0389)
0.5207 0.0002 0.0000 - 0.4793 0.0000 0.0000
2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
1. Cubeful 3-ply 13/9 13/8 Eq.: +0.0427
0.5137 0.0000 0.0000 - 0.4863 0.0000 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
2. Cubeful 3-ply 11/7 10/5 Eq.: +0.0321 ( -0.0106)
0.5101 0.0010 0.0000 - 0.4899 0.0011 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
3. Cubeful 3-ply 11/7 11/6 Eq.: +0.0285 ( -0.0142)
0.5090 0.0009 0.0000 - 0.4910 0.0012 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
4. Cubeful 3-ply 11/7 8/3 Eq.: +0.0284 ( -0.0143)
0.5088 0.0010 0.0000 - 0.4912 0.0012 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
5. Cubeful 3-ply 10/5 8/4 Eq.: +0.0280 ( -0.0146)
0.5089 0.0010 0.0000 - 0.4911 0.0013 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
6. Cubeful 3-ply 10/5 7/3 Eq.: +0.0272 ( -0.0155)
0.5087 0.0011 0.0000 - 0.4913 0.0013 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
7. Cubeful 3-ply 10/6 10/5 Eq.: +0.0268 ( -0.0159)
0.5086 0.0008 0.0000 - 0.4914 0.0012 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
8. Cubeful 3-ply 11/6 8/4 Eq.: +0.0260 ( -0.0167)
0.5082 0.0011 0.0000 - 0.4918 0.0014 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
9. Cubeful 3-ply 11/2 Eq.: +0.0238 ( -0.0188)
0.5074 0.0011 0.0000 - 0.4926 0.0014 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
10. Cubeful 3-ply 11/6 7/3 Eq.: +0.0236 ( -0.0191)
0.5076 0.0011 0.0000 - 0.4924 0.0014 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
11. Cubeful 3-ply 8/4 7/2 Eq.: +0.0228 ( -0.0199)
0.5073 0.0012 0.0000 - 0.4927 0.0016 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
12. Cubeful 3-ply 11/6 10/6 Eq.: +0.0225 ( -0.0201)
0.5072 0.0009 0.0000 - 0.4928 0.0013 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
13. Cubeful 3-ply 10/6 8/3 Eq.: +0.0224 ( -0.0203)
0.5072 0.0010 0.0000 - 0.4928 0.0013 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
14. Cubeful 3-ply 10/6 7/2 Eq.: +0.0198 ( -0.0229)
0.5063 0.0010 0.0000 - 0.4937 0.0014 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
15. Cubeful 3-ply 11/6 5/1 Eq.: +0.0135 ( -0.0292)
0.5041 0.0010 0.0000 - 0.4959 0.0014 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
16. Cubeful 3-ply 11/7 6/1 Eq.: +0.0122 ( -0.0305)
0.5034 0.0009 0.0000 - 0.4966 0.0011 0.0000
3-ply cubeful prune [grandmaster]
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