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Excessive criticism?

Posted By: Casper van der Tak
Date: Sunday, 11 April 2010, at 7:18 a.m.

In Response To: Excessive criticism? (Matt Cohn-Geier)

I am wondering whether in a team format, it would be better to report some of the take points that are well defined without trying to take into account the recube vig. For example, assume you report the take points assuming 100% efficient recubes, and assuming a dead cube. Then the team as a whole could discuss recube vig. Assessing the recube vig is more of a judgment call, and having the more judges involved would improve the decision-making. What do you think, would this be a better way to organize this part of the team play?

I also have a question about the calculation of the take points. Did you calculate in the gammon fractions? I am asking because I suspect that even though the gammon fractions are limited, they will have a big impact on the recube vig, and I am trying to figure out where the high recube vig might come from in this position.

BTW, thanks for explaining the team processes and your own calculation here!

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• Did the full-team consultation format work well?
  Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 6 April 2010, at 2:46 a.m.
  • Did the full-team consultation format work well?
    Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 6 April 2010, at 2:59 a.m.
    • Did the full-team consultation format work well?
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 6 April 2010, at 11:04 a.m.
      • Did the full-team consultation format work well?
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 6 April 2010, at 12:19 p.m.
    • Did the full-team consultation format work well?
      Henrik Bukkjaer -- Tuesday, 6 April 2010, at 11:25 a.m.
  • Did the full-team consultation format work well?
    Perry Gartner -- Tuesday, 6 April 2010, at 11:02 p.m.
    • Did the full-team consultation format work well?
      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 6 April 2010, at 11:49 p.m.
      • Did the full-team consultation format work well?
        Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 7 April 2010, at 1:13 a.m.
        • Did the full-team consultation format work well?
          Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 7 April 2010, at 2:29 a.m.
    • Did the full-team consultation format work well?
      Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 7 April 2010, at 2:01 a.m.
      • Did the full-team consultation format work well?
        Perry Gartner -- Wednesday, 7 April 2010, at 1:57 p.m.
    • Did the full-team consultation format work well?
      Christian Munk-Christensen -- Friday, 9 April 2010, at 8:48 a.m.
      • RO of that bad 4 cube pass
        neilkaz -- Friday, 9 April 2010, at 2:03 p.m.
        • RO of that bad 4 cube pass
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 9 April 2010, at 4:33 p.m.
          • RO of that bad 4 cube pass
            christian munk-christensen -- Friday, 9 April 2010, at 5:41 p.m.
            • RO of that bad 4 cube pass
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Friday, 9 April 2010, at 9:55 p.m.
              • RO of that bad 4 cube pass
                neilkaz -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 4:10 a.m.
                • Excessive criticism?
                  Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 4:28 a.m.
                  • Excessive criticism?
                    Stick -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 4:44 a.m.
                    • Excessive criticism?
                      mochy -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 7:29 a.m.
                    • Excessive criticism?
                      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 10:09 a.m.
                      • Excessive criticism?
                        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 11:25 a.m.
                      • Excessive criticism?
                        christian munk-christensen -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 4:28 p.m.
                        • Excessive criticism?
                          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 5:58 p.m.
                      • Excessive criticism?
                        storm -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 10:28 p.m.
                        • Excessive criticism?
                          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 10:44 p.m.
                          • Excessive criticism?
                            storm -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 10:49 p.m.
                            • Excessive criticism?
                              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 11:05 p.m.
                            • Excessive criticism?
                              storm -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 11:05 p.m.
                          • Excessive criticism?
                            Casper van der Tak -- Sunday, 11 April 2010, at 7:18 a.m.
                            • Excessive criticism?
                              Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 13 April 2010, at 3:08 p.m.
                              • Excessive criticism?
                                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 13 April 2010, at 4:10 p.m.
                                • Excessive criticism?
                                  Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 13 April 2010, at 5:50 p.m.
                                • Excessive criticism?
                                  Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 13 April 2010, at 6:43 p.m.
                                  • Excessive criticism?
                                    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 13 April 2010, at 7:27 p.m.
                                    • Excessive criticism?
                                      Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 13 April 2010, at 7:32 p.m.
                                    • Excessive criticism?
                                      Chase -- Tuesday, 13 April 2010, at 8:36 p.m.
                                      • Excessive criticism?
                                        Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 13 April 2010, at 8:41 p.m.
                                • How often does Team World redouble?
                                  Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 13 April 2010, at 9:16 p.m.
                                • Excessive criticism?
                                  Chase -- Wednesday, 14 April 2010, at 1:56 a.m.
                                  • Excessive criticism?
                                    Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 14 April 2010, at 8:17 p.m.
                                    • Excessive criticism?
                                      Chase -- Wednesday, 14 April 2010, at 8:59 p.m.
                                      • Excessive criticism?
                                        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 15 April 2010, at 2:39 p.m.
                                        • Excessive criticism?
                                          Chase -- Thursday, 15 April 2010, at 5:12 p.m.
                                          • Excessive criticism?
                                            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 15 April 2010, at 5:42 p.m.
                                            • Excessive criticism?
                                              Chase -- Thursday, 15 April 2010, at 5:47 p.m.
                                        • Excessive criticism?
                                          Bob Koca -- Thursday, 15 April 2010, at 7:40 p.m.
                          • Excessive criticism?
                            Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 14 April 2010, at 4:13 p.m.
                            • Excessive criticism?
                              Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 14 April 2010, at 6:58 p.m.
                  • Excessive criticis.. huh ?!?
                    neilkaz -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 7:39 p.m.
                    • Excessive criticis.. huh ?!?
                      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 8:20 p.m.
        • RO of that bad 4 cube pass
          storm -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 9:06 p.m.
          • RO of that bad 4 cube pass
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Saturday, 10 April 2010, at 9:08 p.m.
  • Did the full-team consultation format work well?
    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Friday, 9 April 2010, at 8:34 a.m.