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YES! THEY ARE. - RO, MG, also a variant

Posted By: Daniel Murphy
Date: Tuesday, 3 April 2012, at 10:53 p.m.

In Response To: YES! THEY ARE. (rambiz)

A curious result.

First, here's the original position but in a money game, centered cube:

White	93
Blue	84
Position ID: bdsSwABu2wwGAA Match ID: cAkHAAAAAAAE

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	13/6	+0.0586
			0.4579 0.0457 0.0054 - 0.5421 0.0408 0.0006 -0.0746 +0.0586 0.0007 0.0008 0.0006 - 0.0007 0.0009 0.0001 0.0020 0.0031
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 912103350 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	8/1	+0.0469 ( -0.0117)
			0.4901 0.0368 0.0059 - 0.5099 0.0687 0.0015 -0.0473 +0.0469 0.0010 0.0007 0.0005 - 0.0010 0.0012 0.0016 0.0026 0.0036
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 912103350 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

And here's a variant, also a money game, centered cube. The only difference is that a White checker has been moved from the 9 point to the 8 point:

White	92
Blue	84
Position ID: bdsKwABu2wwGAA Match ID: cAkHAAAAAAAE

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	8/1	+0.0742
			0.4997 0.0478 0.0064 - 0.5003 0.0669 0.0017 -0.0150 +0.0742 0.0010 0.0008 0.0006 - 0.0010 0.0012 0.0002 0.0026 0.0037
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 912103350 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	13/6	+0.0561 ( -0.0181)
			0.4567 0.0490 0.0060 - 0.5433 0.0406 0.0007 -0.0731 +0.0561 0.0008 0.0009 0.0005 - 0.0008 0.0010 0.0001 0.0021 0.0031
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 912103350 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Explanations welcome ;-

Messages In This Thread

• GS, GG or DMP move?!
  rambiz -- Monday, 2 April 2012, at 1:22 a.m.
  • GS, GG or DMP move?!
    Stick -- Monday, 2 April 2012, at 3:27 a.m.
  • GS, GG or DMP move?!
    Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 3 April 2012, at 2:34 a.m.
  • GS, GG or DMP move?! - RO, DMP move
    Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 3 April 2012, at 8:20 p.m.
    • GS, GG or DMP move?! - RO, DMP move
      rambiz -- Tuesday, 3 April 2012, at 8:51 p.m.
      • GS, GG or DMP move?! - RO, DMP move
        Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 3 April 2012, at 9:28 p.m.
        • YES! THEY ARE.
          rambiz -- Tuesday, 3 April 2012, at 10:24 p.m.
          • YES! THEY ARE. - RO, MG, also a variant
            Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 3 April 2012, at 10:53 p.m.
            • YES! THEY ARE. - RO, MG, also a variant
              Stick -- Wednesday, 4 April 2012, at 12:35 a.m.
              • another variant
                Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 4 April 2012, at 6:26 a.m.
                • another variant
                  pontiac -- Wednesday, 4 April 2012, at 6:34 a.m.
                  • another variant - RO
                    Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 4 April 2012, at 3:08 p.m.