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52S-21 — Gammon Go — 2-ply GnuBg Rollout & Question

Posted By: Taper_Mike
Date: Tuesday, 24 July 2012, at 4:36 a.m.

In Response To: Slotting with 52S-21 (Nack Ballard)

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The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 2, user 1 (match to 3 points, Crawford game)

Move number 2: user to play 12

gnubg	160
user	167
Position ID: 4PPgASTgc/ABMA Match ID: 8IloACAACAAE

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	13/11 6/5	+0.203907
			0.472594 0.129359 0.016513 - 0.527406 0.276204 0.073293 +0.203907 +0.203907 0.000900 0.000667 0.000746 - 0.000900 0.002106 0.001624 0.002399 0.002399
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			15552 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 815774911 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
•	2	R	6/3*	+0.202301 ( -0.001606)
			0.473028 0.128122 0.015435 - 0.526972 0.255969 0.059524 +0.202301 +0.202301 0.000881 0.000638 0.000695 - 0.000881 0.002072 0.001460 0.002278 0.002278
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			15552 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 815774911 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	R	24/23 13/11	+0.185217 ( -0.018690)
			0.473056 0.119553 0.011187 - 0.526944 0.232322 0.041750 +0.185217 +0.185217 0.001194 0.000990 0.000929 - 0.001194 0.003393 0.001962 0.003108 0.003108
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			5184 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 815774911 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Rollout by Stick

52S-21 — Gammon Go

Bot	Seed	Equity	Nacbracs	Link
GnuBg 2-ply	[Not posted]	[Not posted]	g[$ H2 S19] /15	BGO Msg. No. 119644
GnuBg 2-ply	[Not posted]	[Not posted]	g[$ H1.6] /15	BGO Msg. No. 56108

This is one of those interesting replies where it is competitive to slot into a double shot. Even so, it is worth noting that Nack states a preference for H = Hit (6/3*) in BGO Msg. No. 56108. The two nacbracs above seem to be referring to the foregoing rollout by Stick. If so, then the first of them contains an error. The trial counts should be 15*5. The second is fine, but omits the third-place play. Of course, it is also possible that Stick’s rollout has been extended since the time the one here was made. If that is the case, then the first report may also be correct. Can anyone shed light on this? As always, the only reason I ask such a picky question is so that the data I am transcribing into my database are accurate. Thanks. Mike

Messages In This Thread

• 51S-21-g Can this possibly be right?
  Philip Cherrington -- Sunday, 9 January 2011, at 6:05 p.m.
  • 51S-21-g Can this possibly be right?
    Stick -- Sunday, 9 January 2011, at 6:16 p.m.
  • 51S-21-g Can this possibly be right?
    Nack Ballard -- Sunday, 9 January 2011, at 6:33 p.m.
    • 51S-21 — Correcting typo...
      Taper_Mike -- Saturday, 7 April 2012, at 12:47 a.m.
      • Slotting with 52S-21
        Nack Ballard -- Saturday, 7 April 2012, at 7:33 p.m.
        • 52S-21 — Gammon Go — 2-ply GnuBg Rollout & Question
          Taper_Mike -- Tuesday, 24 July 2012, at 4:36 a.m.
          • 52S-21 — Gammon Go — 2-ply GnuBg Rollout & Question
            Stick -- Tuesday, 24 July 2012, at 4:44 a.m.
    • 21S-21 data — Clarification requested.
      Taper_Mike -- Wednesday, 11 April 2012, at 11:48 p.m.
      • 21S-21 data — Clarification requested.
        David Rockwell -- Thursday, 12 April 2012, at 12:53 a.m.
      • 21S-21 data — Clarification requested.
        David Rockwell -- Thursday, 12 April 2012, at 12:55 a.m.
        • XG 21S-21-g
          David Rockwell -- Thursday, 12 April 2012, at 12:57 a.m.
        • 21S-21 data — Clarification requested.
          Taper_Mike -- Thursday, 12 April 2012, at 6:51 p.m.
      • 21S-21 data — Clarification requested.
        Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 17 April 2012, at 3:57 a.m.
      • 21S-21 — Gammon Go — 2-ply GnuBg Rollout
        Taper_Mike -- Thursday, 7 June 2012, at 10:49 p.m.
      • 21S-21 data — Clarification received.
        Taper_Mike -- Thursday, 7 June 2012, at 11:27 p.m.
        • 21S-21 data — Clarification received.
          Nack Ballard -- Sunday, 10 June 2012, at 12:34 p.m.
          • Adding the g
            Nack Ballard -- Sunday, 10 June 2012, at 12:37 p.m.
            • Thank you
              Taper_Mike -- Sunday, 10 June 2012, at 10:34 p.m.
    • 41S-21 data — Clarification requested.
      Taper_Mike -- Wednesday, 20 June 2012, at 7:45 p.m.
      • 41S-21 — Double Match Point — 2-ply GnuBg Rollout by Stick
        Taper_Mike -- Wednesday, 20 June 2012, at 7:59 p.m.
      • 41S-21 — Double Match Point — 2-ply GnuBg Rollout by Nack
        Taper_Mike -- Wednesday, 20 June 2012, at 8:02 p.m.
      • 41S-21 data — Clarification requested.
        Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 21 June 2012, at 9:12 p.m.
        • Thank you *NM*
          Taper_Mike -- Friday, 22 June 2012, at 2:49 a.m.
  • 51S-21-g Can this possibly be right?
    Kye Hedlund -- Sunday, 9 January 2011, at 7:16 p.m.
    • Clarifying the order
      Nack Ballard -- Monday, 10 January 2011, at 5:32 a.m.
  • 51S-21-g Can this possibly be right?
    Timothy Chow -- Monday, 10 January 2011, at 12:36 a.m.
    • 51S-21-g Can this possibly be right?
      Stick -- Monday, 10 January 2011, at 10:01 a.m.
      • 51S-21-g Can this possibly be right?
        Timothy Chow -- Monday, 10 January 2011, at 4:54 p.m.
        • 51S-21-g Can this possibly be right?
          eXtreme Gammon -- Monday, 10 January 2011, at 5:36 p.m.
          • 51S-21-g Can this possibly be right?
            Nack Ballard -- Monday, 10 January 2011, at 7:14 p.m.