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51$-52 — DMP, GG, GS — Rollouts

Posted By: Taper_Mike
Date: Monday, 6 August 2012, at 9:12 p.m.

In Response To: 51$ 52 4 ply RO 46k (neilkaz)

Thanks, Neil, for your 4-ply rollout of 51$-52. I have added it to my growing database. This post contains 7 at-score rollouts of the same position. With the exception of Stick’s DMP rollout (which is the BGO rollout), I have not seen these posted elsewhere. Thanks to the rollateers: David, Miran, Nack and Stick. If any readers have a rollout of this position that they would like to share, please send it to me, and/or post it here. Mike

DMP: Stick Nack Miran – GG: Stick David – GS: Stick David – End: Threads

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51$-52 — Double Match Point

Bot	Seed	Equity	Nacbracs	Rollateer
GnuBg 2-ply	832740158	–100.582	d[$ S4] /5	Stick

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, user 0 (match to 1 point, post-Crawford play)

Move number 2: user to play 25

gnubg	161
user	167
Position ID: 0PPgATDgc/ABMA Match ID: cAk1AAAAAAAE

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	13/8 6/4	-0.100582
			0.449709 0.165789 0.026289 - 0.550291 0.233643 0.047430 -0.100582 -0.100582 0.001461 0.002970 0.001750 - 0.001461 0.003413 0.002328 0.002922 0.002922
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			5184 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 832740158 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
•	2	R	24/22 13/8	-0.105015 ( -0.004434)
			0.447492 0.162449 0.023836 - 0.552508 0.221593 0.033921 -0.105015 -0.105015 0.001277 0.002973 0.001697 - 0.001277 0.003527 0.001919 0.002555 0.002555
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			5184 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 832740158 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Rollout by Stick

DMP: Stick Nack Miran – GG: Stick David – GS: Stick David – End: Threads

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51$-52 — Double Match Point

Bot	Seed	Equity	Nacbracs	Rollateer
GnuBg 2-ply	848484849	–99.767	d[S $1 D21] /15*4	Nack Ballard

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 6, user 6 (match to 7 points, post-Crawford play)

Move number 2: user to play 52

gnubg	161
user	167
Position ID: 0PPgATDgc/ABMA Match ID: cInqAGAAMAAE

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	24/22 13/8	-0.099767
			0.450116 0.159920 0.023450 - 0.549884 0.228228 0.033607 -0.099768 -0.099767 0.000745 0.001755 0.000902 - 0.000745 0.001990 0.001130 0.001490 0.001490
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			15552 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 848484849 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
•	2	R	13/8 6/4	-0.100367 ( -0.000600)
			0.449817 0.168643 0.026854 - 0.550183 0.240525 0.050870 -0.100367 -0.100367 0.000785 0.001755 0.000994 - 0.000785 0.002056 0.001372 0.001570 0.001570
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			15552 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 848484849 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	R	13/11 13/8	-0.120621 ( -0.020854)
			0.439689 0.169412 0.028399 - 0.560311 0.235523 0.048720 -0.120621 -0.120621 0.001744 0.003156 0.001909 - 0.001744 0.003804 0.002489 0.003488 0.003488
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			4549 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 848484849 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Rollout by Nack Ballard

DMP: Stick Nack Miran – GG: Stick David – GS: Stick David – End: Threads

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51$-52 — Double Match Point

Bot	Seed	Equity	Nacbracs	Rollateer
XG 2.03 3-ply, MET: Kazaross XG2	76058919	–100.8	d[$ S5 D10] "<10*6	Miran Tuhtan

		White is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 161 1 point match pip: 167 score: 0 Blue is Player 1
XGID=-b----E-C---dE---d-da---B-:0:0:1:52:0:0:0:1:10
Blue to play 52

1.	Rollout1	13/8 6/4	eq: -0.1008
	Player: Opponent: 44.96% (G:13.34% B:1.69%) 55.04% (G:19.49% B:3.28%) Conf.: ±0.0021 (-0.1028...-0.0987) - [100.0%] Duration: 31 minutes 20 seconds
2.	Rollout1	24/22 13/8	eq: -0.1061 (-0.0054)
	Player: Opponent: 44.69% (G:12.44% B:1.39%) 55.31% (G:18.34% B:2.04%) Conf.: ±0.0020 (-0.1081...-0.1041) - [0.0%] Duration: 30 minutes 50 seconds
3.	Rollout2	13/11 13/8	eq: -0.1105 (-0.0097)
	Player: Opponent: 44.47% (G:13.73% B:1.54%) 55.53% (G:19.33% B:3.22%) Conf.: ±0.0026 (-0.1131...-0.1079) - [0.0%] Duration: 20 minutes 32 seconds
1 10368 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 76058919 Moves and cube decisions: 3-ply 2 6806 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 76058919 Moves and cube decisions: 3-ply

Rollout by Miran Tuhtan eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.03, MET: Kazaross XG2 51$-52-d-mt.xgp 51$-52 d[$ S5 D10] "<10*6

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.03, MET: Kazaross XG2

DMP: Stick Nack Miran – GG: Stick David – GS: Stick David – End: Threads

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51$-52 — Gammon Go

Bot	Seed	Equity	Nacbracs	Rollateer
GnuBg 2-ply	816809908	+153.078	g[$ D13 S23] /5	Stick

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 2, user 1 (match to 3 points, Crawford game)

Move number 2: user to play 25

gnubg	161
user	167
Position ID: 0PPgATDgc/ABMA Match ID: 8Al1ACAACAAE

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	13/8 6/4	+0.153078
			0.456806 0.119733 0.015250 - 0.543194 0.239535 0.048261 +0.153078 +0.153078 0.001286 0.000957 0.001209 - 0.001286 0.003500 0.002243 0.003326 0.003326
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			5184 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 816809908 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	13/11 13/8	+0.140220 ( -0.012857)
			0.450509 0.119601 0.017037 - 0.549491 0.244663 0.046493 +0.140221 +0.140220 0.001168 0.000955 0.001252 - 0.001168 0.003445 0.002100 0.003058 0.003058
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			5184 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 816809908 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	R	24/22 13/8	+0.129892 ( -0.023186)
			0.454505 0.110441 0.013488 - 0.545495 0.233738 0.037263 +0.129891 +0.129892 0.001094 0.000919 0.001045 - 0.001094 0.003515 0.001917 0.002856 0.002857
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			5184 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 816809908 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Rollout by Stick

DMP: Stick Nack Miran – GG: Stick David – GS: Stick David – End: Threads

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51$-52 — Gammon Go

Bot	Seed	Equity	Nacbracs	Rollateer
XG 2.xx 3-ply	51698001	+150.4	g[$ D10 S22] "<31*15	David Rockwell

		White is Player 2 score: 1 pip: 161 2 point match Crawford pip: 167 score: 0 Blue is Player 1
XGID=-b----E-C---dE---d-da---B-:0:0:1:52:0:1:1:2:10
Blue to play 52

1.	Rollout1	13/8 6/4	eq: +0.1504
	Player: Opponent: 45.25% (G:12.27% B:1.14%) 54.75% (G:19.35% B:3.10%) Conf.: ±0.0016 (+0.1488...+0.1519) - [100.0%] Duration: 4 hours 55 minutes
2.	Rollout1	13/11 13/8	eq: +0.1402 (-0.0102)
	Player: Opponent: 44.82% (G:12.19% B:1.16%) 55.18% (G:19.34% B:3.21%) Conf.: ±0.0016 (+0.1386...+0.1417) - [0.0%] Duration: 4 hours 51 minutes
3.	Rollout2	24/22 13/8	eq: +0.1279 (-0.0225)
	Player: Opponent: 45.09% (G:11.31% B:1.03%) 54.91% (G:18.64% B:2.29%) Conf.: ±0.0021 (+0.1258...+0.1300) - [0.0%] Duration: 5 hours 06 minutes
1 31104 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 51698001 Moves and cube decisions: 3-ply 2 15552 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 51698001 Moves and cube decisions: 3-ply

Rollout by David Rockwell eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.xx 51$-52-g-dr.xgp 51$-52 g[$ D10 S22] "<31*15

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.03, MET: Kazaross XG2

DMP: Stick Nack Miran – GG: Stick David – GS: Stick David – End: Threads

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51$-52 — Gammon Save

Bot	Seed	Equity	Nacbracs	Rollateer
GnuBg 2-ply	814621715	–455.017	s[S=$] /15	Stick

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 1, user 2 (match to 3 points, Crawford game)

Move number 2: user to play 25

gnubg	161
user	167
Position ID: 0PPgATDgc/ABMA Match ID: 8Al1ABAAEAAE

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	24/22 13/8	-0.455017
			0.444580 0.174392 0.020232 - 0.555420 0.172089 0.012281 -0.455018 -0.455017 0.000652 0.001540 0.000660 - 0.000652 0.000633 0.000444 0.001776 0.001776
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			15552 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 814621715 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	13/8 6/4	-0.455371 ( -0.000354)
			0.444103 0.180032 0.024769 - 0.555897 0.171789 0.021971 -0.455371 -0.455371 0.000691 0.001555 0.000793 - 0.000691 0.000645 0.000639 0.001912 0.001912
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			15552 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 814621715 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Rollout by Stick

DMP: Stick Nack Miran – GG: Stick David – GS: Stick David – End: Threads

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51$-52 — Gammon Save

Bot	Seed	Equity	Nacbracs	Rollateer
XG 2.xx 3-ply	60836062	–453.8	s[S $4 D17] "<31*20	David Rockwell

		White is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 161 2 point match Crawford pip: 167 score: 1 Blue is Player 1
XGID=-b----E-C---dE---d-da---B-:0:0:1:52:1:0:1:2:10
Blue to play 52

1.	Rollout1	24/22 13/8	eq: -0.4538
	Player: Opponent: 44.59% (G:13.70% B:1.83%) 55.41% (G:17.28% B:1.48%) Conf.: ±0.0016 (-0.4554...-0.4522) - [100.0%] Duration: 14 hours 04 minutes
2.	Rollout1	13/8 6/4	eq: -0.4577 (-0.0040)
	Player: Opponent: 44.25% (G:14.23% B:2.04%) 55.75% (G:17.14% B:2.26%) Conf.: ±0.0016 (-0.4594...-0.4561) - [0.0%] Duration: 13 hours 48 minutes
3.	Rollout2	13/11 13/8	eq: -0.4708 (-0.0170)
	Player: Opponent: 43.88% (G:14.55% B:2.06%) 56.12% (G:17.42% B:2.24%) Conf.: ±0.0021 (-0.4729...-0.4687) - [0.0%] Duration: 9 hours 09 minutes
1 31104 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 60836062 Moves and cube decisions: 3-ply 2 20736 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 60836062 Moves and cube decisions: 3-ply

Rollout by David Rockwell eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.xx 51$-52-s-dr.xgp 51$-52 s[S $4 D17] "<31*20

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.03, MET: Kazaross XG2

DMP: Stick Nack Miran – GG: Stick David – GS: Stick David – End: Threads

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Messages In This Thread

• 51$ 52 4 ply RO 46k
  neilkaz -- Monday, 6 August 2012, at 5:24 p.m.
  • 51$-52 — DMP, GG, GS — Rollouts
    Taper_Mike -- Monday, 6 August 2012, at 9:12 p.m.
  • 51$-52 — DMP — 3-ply XG2 Rollout
    Taper_Mike -- Tuesday, 7 August 2012, at 4:04 a.m.
  • 51$ 52 4 ply RO 46k
    Stick -- Tuesday, 7 August 2012, at 4:24 a.m.