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Too Good positions can be used as a trap. Export Position from Match and Position from Position

Posted By: svilo
Date: Friday, 7 September 2012, at 3:58 a.m.

Both times I use the options to not show playe names, comments and analysis. Both times I use XGR++ and it gives A BIG differens of the TAKE error.

This is a position exported from Match. Players EXCLUDED, but existing on the XG export.





White is LAZO

score: 0
pip: 157
7 point match
pip: 128
score: 0

Blue is svilo
XGID=aa-B-CB-CAAAe-a--A-c-bb-A-:0:0:1:00:0:0:0:7:3
Blue on roll, cube action?

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.03

This is the same position exported from position. Players again EXCLUDED, but the exclusion does not work again.





White is LAZO

score: 0
pip: 151
7 point match
pip: 128
score: 0

Blue is svilo
XGID=aa-B-CB-CAAAe-a--A-c-b--A-:0:0:1:D:0:0:0:7:3
Blue on roll, cube action?

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.03

This is the first position (from match) with analysis, comments and Players INCLUDED BUT NOT SHOWING.





White is LAZO

score: 0
pip: 157
7 point match
pip: 128
score: 0

Blue is svilo
XGID=aa-B-CB-CAAAe-a--A-c-bb-A-:0:0:1:00:0:0:0:7:3
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in XG Roller++ No double Double/Take
Player Winning Chances: 72.33% (G:42.95% B:2.83%) 72.69% (G:44.91% B:2.84%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 27.67% (G:5.65% B:0.39%) 27.31% (G:6.25% B:0.52%)
Cubeless Equities +0.855 +1.808
Cubeful Equities
No double:+1.020
Double/Take:+1.583 (+0.563)
Double/Pass:+1.000 (-0.020)
Best Cube action: Too good to double / Pass
Percentage of wrong take needed to make the double decision right: 3.5%

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.03, MET: Kazaross XG2

This is the same position exported from position. If you see the figures and evaluations NOW IT IS NOT TOO GOOD and the TAKE error is only 16% not 56. So my initial comments are irrelevant. Here I see my comments, but the Position exported from match does not show them. In both cases I use XGR++. The figures of XG differ drastically, the comments are not shown in the export from match although I required them. I only still see them in XG. Maybe something in my Windows Registry changed. Do I need to reinstall XG?





White is LAZO

score: 0
pip: 151
7 point match
pip: 128
score: 0

Blue is svilo
XGID=aa-B-CB-CAAAe-a--A-c-b--A-:0:0:1:D:0:0:0:7:3
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in XG Roller++ No double Double/Take
Player Winning Chances: 82.75% (G:0.00% B:0.00%) 82.62% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 17.25% (G:1.94% B:0.11%) 17.38% (G:1.86% B:0.08%)
Cubeless Equities +0.634 +1.275
Cubeful Equities
No double:+0.948 (-0.052)
Double/Take:+1.160 (+0.160)
Double/Pass:+1.000
Best Cube action: Double / Pass

Are you a poker player?

Too Good Can be a trap. Taking the cube here would be a 7 times bigger errror than ofrrering the cube. If you estimate your opponent will take one in 27 times then it is a CUBE!

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.03, MET: Kazaross XG2

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