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Bots screwing up "easy" positions

Posted By: Timothy Chow
Date: Saturday, 2 March 2013, at 7:50 p.m.

I recently mentioned that bots sometimes do funny things during an "easy" bearin against a holding game. Here is some concrete data to back up that assertion.

In the position below, White is XG 3-ply version 1. The first thing to note is that virtually no human would get into a situation like this in the first place, with four blots flooding the home board. Adopting a properly worshipful attitude towards the bot, we might wonder if it knows something that we don't?

Well, the next observation is that XG 3-ply's recommendation for my move in this position is 7/2 7/1, which XGR+ labels a whopper.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 112
Money session
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 107
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=--ABBBBBA--Ab--bbbBcaaaa--:1:-1:1:65:0:0:3:0:10
Blue to play 65

1.XG Roller+18/7eq: +0.041
Player:
Opponent:
58.22% (G:3.82% B:0.12%)
41.78% (G:1.51% B:0.03%)
2.XG Roller+18/13 8/2eq: +0.026 (-0.015)
Player:
Opponent:
57.75% (G:3.66% B:0.12%)
42.25% (G:2.07% B:0.05%)
3.XG Roller+18/13 11/5eq: +0.014 (-0.027)
Player:
Opponent:
57.19% (G:3.84% B:0.14%)
42.81% (G:2.47% B:0.05%)
4.XG Roller+11/6 8/2eq: -0.065 (-0.105)
Player:
Opponent:
54.08% (G:2.91% B:0.06%)
45.92% (G:1.93% B:0.05%)
5.XG Roller+8/2 7/2eq: -0.076 (-0.116)
Player:
Opponent:
53.80% (G:2.69% B:0.05%)
46.20% (G:2.06% B:0.05%)
6.XG Roller+7/2 7/1eq: -0.076 (-0.116)
Player:
Opponent:
53.78% (G:2.73% B:0.06%)
46.22% (G:2.13% B:0.05%)

eXtreme Gammon Version: 1.21


Let's say we go ahead and follow XG 3-ply's recommendation to see what happens next. We might be faced with the decision below on the next turn, when XG 3-ply recommends 11/7 6/1.

All this shows why I'm not sure I trust a 3-ply rollout of such an "easy" position. I'd be curious to find out to what extent this weakness has been addressed in XG version 2. Does XG 3-ply version 2 still flood its board with gratuitous blots in these sorts of positions?





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 103
Money session
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 96
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-ABBBBB-A--Ab--bb-Bcbaab--:1:-1:1:54:0:0:3:0:10
Blue to play 54

1.XG Roller+18/14 18/13eq: -0.001
Player:
Opponent:
54.63% (G:9.03% B:0.91%)
45.37% (G:7.10% B:0.29%)
2.XG Roller+11/7 6/1eq: -0.122 (-0.121)
Player:
Opponent:
51.51% (G:3.72% B:0.06%)
48.49% (G:2.71% B:0.08%)

eXtreme Gammon Version: 1.21

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