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Snowie’s fake AtS data

Posted By: Timothy Chow
Date: Sunday, 21 April 2013, at 7:33 p.m.

In Response To: Snowie’s fake AtS data (Taper_Mike)

Mike wrote:

Snowie’s fake AtS is suspected of having biased it into ranking plays differently from GnuBg and XG.

Well, that's not a surprise. However, getting back to the Woolsey book, it sounds to me that your hypothesis is that Snowie's fake AtS play may rank plays differently from how Snowie itself ranks the plays in a money game rollout. That's much harder to believe. Differences between different bots is one thing, but differences in ranking of plays between a Snowie AtS rollout and a Snowie money rollout when we know that Snowie plays the checkers exactly the same way in both cases seem implausible. I guess it's theoretically possible if a Snowie live cube rollout were performed, but it still seems unlikely (especially since Woolsey had a distaste for Snowie live cube rollouts). It just seems much more plausible that Snowie disagrees with XG.

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