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separating TG from D/P

Posted By: Bob Koca
Date: Tuesday, 6 August 2013, at 7:50 p.m.

In Response To: separating TG from D/P (David Presser)

Here is an example of how the greater cube power ATS balances the lower gammon value on a 1 cube. If you get a 52 and then opponent gets a 43 you have lost your cash both ATS and for money. But you have lost it by less ATS.

		White is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 143 Unlimited Game pip: 122 score: 0 Blue is Player 1
XGID=-B-aaBC-B-aAbE---bacbb----:0:0:1:00:0:0:0:0:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in XG Roller++	No double	Double/Take
Player Winning Chances:	70.164% (G:19.961% B:0.707%)	69.731% (G:21.939% B:0.858%)
Opponent Winning Chances:	29.836% (G:4.989% B:0.166%)	30.269% (G:5.469% B:0.198%)
Cubeless Equities	+0.5584	+1.1318
Cubeful Equities
No double:	+0.8200 (-0.0933)
Double/Take:	+0.9133
Double/Pass:	+1.0000 (+0.0867)
Best Cube action: Double / Take

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

		White is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 143 5 point match pip: 122 score: 0 Blue is Player 1
XGID=-B-aaBC-B-aAbE---bacbb----:0:0:1:00:0:0:0:5:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in XG Roller++	No double	Double/Take
Player Winning Chances:	70.241% (G:19.693% B:0.698%)	69.030% (G:23.782% B:1.003%)
Opponent Winning Chances:	29.759% (G:4.915% B:0.164%)	30.970% (G:6.030% B:0.231%)
Cubeless Equities	+0.5464	+1.1891
Cubeful Equities
No double:	+0.8053 (-0.1334)
Double/Take:	+0.9387
Double/Pass:	+1.0000 (+0.0613)
Best Cube action: Double / Take

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2

It is not huge but .5 changing to .455 GP is not huge either.

Does that help? If you still disagree how do you explain the RO results for money and ATS being so close?

Messages In This Thread

• separating TG from D/P
  DanielP -- Tuesday, 6 August 2013, at 11:49 a.m.
  • separating TG from D/P
    ah_clem -- Tuesday, 6 August 2013, at 3:14 p.m.
  • separating TG from D/P
    Keene -- Tuesday, 6 August 2013, at 4:34 p.m.
    • separating TG from D/P
      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 6 August 2013, at 6:44 p.m.
  • separating TG from D/P
    Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 6 August 2013, at 6:35 p.m.
  • separating TG from D/P
    David Presser -- Tuesday, 6 August 2013, at 7:02 p.m.
    • separating TG from D/P
      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 6 August 2013, at 7:18 p.m.
      • separating TG from D/P
        David Presser -- Tuesday, 6 August 2013, at 7:28 p.m.
        • separating TG from D/P
          Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 6 August 2013, at 7:50 p.m.
          • separating TG from D/P
            David Presser -- Tuesday, 6 August 2013, at 8:28 p.m.
  • separating TG from D/P
    mandm1951 -- Tuesday, 6 August 2013, at 7:49 p.m.
  • separating TG from D/P
    Dmitriy Obukhov -- Tuesday, 6 August 2013, at 8:42 p.m.