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Puzzled - Ro + variants

Posted By: smcrtorchs
Date: Sunday, 10 November 2013, at 11:09 p.m.

In Response To: Puzzled (smcrtorchs)

I was not planning to comment, so I will try to mostly present the data that I have. The two top choices according to the bot are 13/9 6/5* and 6/5*/1*. I do have a few concerns about how well Gnu is using the cube in the rollouts, but I tend to trust the rollouts more than not.

ATS when blue holds the 20,22 and 24 anchor then the correct play is 6/5*/1*. When he holds the 23 then the correct play is 13/9 6/5*.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, boo 1 (match to 5 points)

Move number 3: boo to play 41

gnubg	145
boo	138
Position ID: mHeYASFmzuABAw Match ID: cAmmAAAACAAE

• boo moves 6/5*/1*

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	6/5*/1*	+0.513
			0.565 0.251 0.036 - 0.435 0.092 0.007 +0.359 +0.513 0.001 0.002 0.003 - 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.002 0.005
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			3783 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 726904129 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	2	R	13/9 6/5*	+0.479 ( -0.033)
			0.571 0.219 0.027 - 0.429 0.094 0.005 +0.331 +0.479 0.001 0.001 0.002 - 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.002 0.005
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			3781 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 726904129 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	3	R	13/8	+0.345 ( -0.167)
			0.546 0.150 0.023 - 0.454 0.067 0.006 +0.220 +0.345 0.001 0.002 0.003 - 0.001 0.001 0.002 0.003 0.009
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727171066 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	4	2	8/4 6/5*	+0.329 ( -0.184)
			0.537 0.193 0.006 - 0.463 0.099 0.003
	5	0	6/1*	+0.138 ( -0.374)
			0.507 0.148 0.004 - 0.493 0.090 0.002
	6	0	8/7 8/4	+0.061 ( -0.452)
			0.490 0.125 0.003 - 0.510 0.087 0.002
	7	0	20/16 6/5*	+0.037 ( -0.476)
			0.509 0.166 0.008 - 0.491 0.178 0.010
	8	0	8/3	-0.010 ( -0.523)
			0.475 0.128 0.004 - 0.525 0.106 0.004
	9	0	13/9 2/1*	-0.155 ( -0.667)
			0.442 0.119 0.004 - 0.558 0.126 0.005
	10	0	13/9 8/7	-0.169 ( -0.682)
			0.443 0.122 0.004 - 0.557 0.139 0.007

If blue holds the 22 anchor instead of the 20 there is a very small equity swing.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, boo 1 (match to 5 points)

Move number 3: boo to play 41

gnubg	145
boo	142
Position ID: mHeYASFmzuABDA Match ID: cAmmAAAACAAE

• boo moves 6/5*/1*

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	6/5*/1*	+0.265
			0.510 0.243 0.051 - 0.490 0.137 0.013 +0.181 +0.265 0.001 0.002 0.004 - 0.001 0.001 0.002 0.003 0.009
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			2393 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727427583 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	2	R	13/9 6/5*	+0.221 ( -0.044)
			0.518 0.214 0.034 - 0.482 0.143 0.011 +0.145 +0.221 0.001 0.002 0.003 - 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.003 0.007
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			2393 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727427583 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	3	R	13/8	-0.014 ( -0.279)
			0.473 0.138 0.020 - 0.527 0.119 0.005 -0.014 -0.014 0.001 0.002 0.004 - 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.003 0.008
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727602517 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	4	2	8/4 6/5*	-0.032 ( -0.296)
			0.471 0.168 0.007 - 0.529 0.148 0.006
	5	0	6/1*	-0.167 ( -0.432)
			0.437 0.134 0.003 - 0.563 0.136 0.004
	6	0	8/7 8/4	-0.268 ( -0.533)
			0.413 0.109 0.003 - 0.587 0.135 0.004
	7	0	8/3	-0.328 ( -0.593)
			0.405 0.113 0.003 - 0.595 0.158 0.006
	8	0	13/9 2/1*	-0.436 ( -0.700)
			0.385 0.108 0.004 - 0.615 0.182 0.009
	9	0	13/9 8/7	-0.451 ( -0.715)
			0.388 0.110 0.003 - 0.612 0.199 0.011
	10	0	8/4 2/1*	-0.523 ( -0.788)
			0.365 0.098 0.003 - 0.635 0.189 0.010

When blue holds the 23 anchor, the cubeless equities favors 6/5*/1* by 0.026, but the cubeful equities favor 13/9 6/5* by 0.013.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, boo 1 (match to 5 points)

Move number 3: boo to play 41

gnubg	145
boo	144
Position ID: mHeYASFmzuABGA Match ID: cAmmAAAACAAE

• boo moves 13/9 6/5*

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	13/9 6/5*	+0.053
			0.483 0.207 0.053 - 0.517 0.170 0.018 +0.027 +0.053 0.001 0.002 0.004 - 0.001 0.001 0.002 0.004 0.009
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			2243 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727306339 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	2	R	6/5*/1*	+0.039 ( -0.013)
			0.478 0.229 0.034 - 0.522 0.163 0.012 +0.053 +0.039 0.001 0.002 0.004 - 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.003 0.008
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			2242 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727306339 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	3	R	23/22 13/9	-0.238 ( -0.290)
			0.432 0.165 0.037 - 0.568 0.205 0.013 -0.167 -0.238 0.001 0.002 0.005 - 0.001 0.002 0.001 0.004 0.009
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727213420 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	4	R	8/4 6/5*	-0.240 ( -0.292)
			0.433 0.174 0.027 - 0.567 0.182 0.013 -0.135 -0.240 0.001 0.002 0.004 - 0.001 0.002 0.001 0.004 0.011
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727213420 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	5	R	13/8	-0.264 ( -0.317)
			0.424 0.141 0.025 - 0.576 0.158 0.007 -0.171 -0.264 0.001 0.002 0.004 - 0.001 0.002 0.001 0.004 0.010
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727213420 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	6	0	6/1*	-0.299 ( -0.352)
			0.411 0.129 0.003 - 0.589 0.162 0.006
	7	0	23/22 6/2	-0.405 ( -0.458)
			0.401 0.108 0.003 - 0.599 0.199 0.007
	8	0	8/7 8/4	-0.412 ( -0.465)
			0.384 0.105 0.003 - 0.616 0.164 0.008
	9	0	23/22 8/4	-0.463 ( -0.516)
			0.392 0.115 0.004 - 0.608 0.218 0.012
	10	0	8/3	-0.496 ( -0.548)
			0.372 0.106 0.003 - 0.628 0.190 0.011

Finally, when blue holds the 24 point, 13/9 6/5* is no longer winning more games. It looks like a blue has to hit twice in order to escape. Also, note that the deeper the anchor that blue has, the less gammons 6/5*/1* will lose in comparison with 13/9 6/5*. When blue has the 24 anchor he looses almost 2% less gammons after 6/5*/1*.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, boo 1 (match to 5 points)

Move number 3: boo to play 41

gnubg	145
boo	146
Position ID: mHeYASFmzuABMA Match ID: cAmmAAAACAAE

• boo moves 6/5*/1*

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	6/5*/1*	-0.062
			0.457 0.215 0.042 - 0.543 0.183 0.015 -0.033 -0.062 0.001 0.002 0.005 - 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.004 0.010
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1554 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727404407 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	2	R	24/20 6/5*	-0.113 ( -0.050)
			0.460 0.179 0.053 - 0.540 0.188 0.019 -0.064 -0.113 0.001 0.002 0.005 - 0.001 0.001 0.002 0.004 0.010
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1553 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727404407 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	3	R	13/9 6/5*	-0.143 ( -0.081)
			0.455 0.194 0.050 - 0.545 0.201 0.024 -0.087 -0.143 0.001 0.003 0.005 - 0.001 0.001 0.002 0.005 0.013
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1552 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727404407 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	4	R	8/4 6/5*	-0.359 ( -0.296)
			0.410 0.164 0.036 - 0.590 0.212 0.023 -0.223 -0.359 0.001 0.002 0.004 - 0.001 0.002 0.002 0.004 0.010
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1312 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727270232 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	5	R	24/23 13/9	-0.370 ( -0.307)
			0.409 0.159 0.029 - 0.591 0.220 0.016 -0.249 -0.370 0.001 0.002 0.004 - 0.001 0.002 0.002 0.004 0.010
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1311 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727270232 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	6	R	24/23 24/20	-0.421 ( -0.358)
			0.410 0.136 0.020 - 0.590 0.224 0.009 -0.273 -0.421 0.001 0.002 0.003 - 0.001 0.002 0.001 0.004 0.009
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1311 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727270232 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	7	0	13/8	-0.409 ( -0.346)
			0.389 0.126 0.004 - 0.611 0.184 0.008
	8	0	6/1*	-0.456 ( -0.394)
			0.382 0.125 0.003 - 0.618 0.197 0.011
	9	0	24/23 6/2	-0.502 ( -0.439)
			0.377 0.106 0.003 - 0.623 0.208 0.008
	10	0	24/23 8/4	-0.534 ( -0.472)
			0.375 0.112 0.004 - 0.625 0.224 0.013

For money things are a bit different. The extra gammons that blue wins and the fewer that he loses after 6/5*/1* have a lower value. Here blue should hit twice when he has the 20 anchor, but hit only once when his anchor is less advanced on the 22 or the 23. Then again, if he holds the 24 anchor he should hit twice as before.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, boo 1

Move number 3: boo to play 41

gnubg	145
boo	138
Position ID: mHeYASFmzuABAw Match ID: cAkGAAAACAAA

• boo moves 13/9 6/5*

Alert: doubtful move ( -0.017)

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	6/5*/1*	+0.406
			0.566 0.247 0.005 - 0.434 0.092 0.004 +0.288 +0.406 0.001 0.002 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.009
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727673796 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
•	2	R	13/9 6/5*	+0.389 ( -0.017)
			0.571 0.218 0.007 - 0.429 0.093 0.004 +0.269 +0.389 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.008
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727673796 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	3	2	8/4 6/5*	+0.258 ( -0.148)
			0.537 0.190 0.006 - 0.463 0.099 0.003
	4	2	13/8	+0.253 ( -0.153)
			0.559 0.145 0.004 - 0.441 0.067 0.001
	5	2	6/1*	+0.088 ( -0.318)
			0.513 0.146 0.004 - 0.487 0.093 0.003
	6	0	20/16 6/5*	+0.012 ( -0.394)
			0.509 0.166 0.008 - 0.491 0.178 0.010
	7	0	8/7 8/4	+0.006 ( -0.400)
			0.490 0.125 0.003 - 0.510 0.087 0.002
	8	0	8/3	-0.053 ( -0.459)
			0.475 0.128 0.004 - 0.525 0.106 0.004
	9	0	13/9 2/1*	-0.176 ( -0.582)
			0.442 0.119 0.004 - 0.558 0.126 0.005
	10	0	13/9 8/7	-0.184 ( -0.590)
			0.443 0.122 0.004 - 0.557 0.139 0.007

When blue holds the 22 or the 23 anchor for money then the cubeless equities favor very slightly 6/5*/1*, but the cubeful equities favor 13/9 6/5 at both occasions.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, boo 1

Move number 3: boo to play 41

gnubg	145
boo	142
Position ID: mHeYASFmzuABDA Match ID: cAkGAAAACAAA

• boo moves 6/5*/1*

Alert: doubtful move ( -0.018)

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	13/9 6/5*	+0.149
			0.517 0.211 0.008 - 0.483 0.141 0.007 +0.104 +0.149 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.010
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727486423 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
•	2	R	6/5*/1*	+0.131 ( -0.018)
			0.512 0.232 0.005 - 0.488 0.141 0.007 +0.112 +0.131 0.001 0.002 0.000 - 0.001 0.002 0.000 0.003 0.009
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727486423 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	3	2	13/8	-0.060 ( -0.209)
			0.474 0.131 0.004 - 0.526 0.114 0.003
	4	2	8/4 6/5*	-0.086 ( -0.234)
			0.470 0.169 0.007 - 0.530 0.149 0.006
	5	0	6/1*	-0.185 ( -0.334)
			0.437 0.134 0.003 - 0.563 0.136 0.004
	6	0	8/7 8/4	-0.277 ( -0.426)
			0.413 0.109 0.003 - 0.587 0.135 0.004
	7	0	8/3	-0.321 ( -0.470)
			0.405 0.113 0.003 - 0.595 0.158 0.006
	8	0	13/9 2/1*	-0.406 ( -0.555)
			0.385 0.108 0.004 - 0.615 0.182 0.009
	9	0	13/9 8/7	-0.412 ( -0.561)
			0.388 0.110 0.003 - 0.612 0.199 0.011
	10	0	8/4 2/1*	-0.490 ( -0.639)
			0.365 0.098 0.003 - 0.635 0.189 0.010

---------------------------------------------------23 anchor

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, boo 1

Move number 3: boo to play 41

gnubg	145
boo	144
Position ID: mHeYASFmzuABGA Match ID: cAkGAAAACAAA

• boo moves 6/5*/1*

Alert: doubtful move ( -0.013)

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	13/9 6/5*	-0.021
			0.486 0.198 0.010 - 0.514 0.171 0.011 -0.002 -0.021 0.001 0.002 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.010
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 726806507 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
•	2	R	6/5*/1*	-0.034 ( -0.013)
			0.477 0.217 0.005 - 0.523 0.160 0.009 +0.008 -0.034 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.008
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 726806507 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	3	2	13/8	-0.206 ( -0.185)
			0.438 0.131 0.004 - 0.562 0.148 0.005
	4	2	8/4 6/5*	-0.213 ( -0.192)
			0.447 0.159 0.007 - 0.553 0.172 0.009
	5	2	23/22 13/9	-0.250 ( -0.229)
			0.434 0.148 0.007 - 0.566 0.196 0.010
	6	0	6/1*	-0.293 ( -0.272)
			0.411 0.129 0.003 - 0.589 0.162 0.006
	7	0	23/22 6/2	-0.373 ( -0.352)
			0.401 0.108 0.003 - 0.599 0.199 0.007
	8	0	8/7 8/4	-0.394 ( -0.374)
			0.384 0.105 0.003 - 0.616 0.164 0.008
	9	0	23/22 8/4	-0.415 ( -0.394)
			0.392 0.115 0.004 - 0.608 0.218 0.012
	10	0	8/3	-0.456 ( -0.435)
			0.372 0.106 0.003 - 0.628 0.190 0.011

----------------------------------24 anchor

Here 6/5*/1* wins more games as before and looks to be necessary as a way to escape.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, boo 1

Move number 3: boo to play 41

gnubg	145
boo	146
Position ID: mHeYASFmzuABMA Match ID: cAkGAAAACAAA

• boo moves 6/5*/1*

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	6/5*/1*	-0.120
			0.455 0.204 0.005 - 0.545 0.182 0.013 -0.076 -0.120 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.009
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727245070 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	2	R	24/20 6/5*	-0.161 ( -0.041)
			0.459 0.168 0.009 - 0.541 0.185 0.012 -0.103 -0.161 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.008
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727245070 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	3	R	13/9 6/5*	-0.173 ( -0.054)
			0.454 0.183 0.010 - 0.546 0.199 0.018 -0.116 -0.173 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.008
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727245070 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	4	2	24/23 13/9	-0.334 ( -0.214)
			0.413 0.140 0.006 - 0.587 0.205 0.011
	5	2	8/4 6/5*	-0.344 ( -0.225)
			0.420 0.153 0.006 - 0.580 0.204 0.017
	6	2	24/23 24/20	-0.374 ( -0.254)
			0.419 0.124 0.006 - 0.581 0.214 0.007
	7	0	13/8	-0.380 ( -0.260)
			0.389 0.126 0.004 - 0.611 0.184 0.008
	8	0	6/1*	-0.416 ( -0.296)
			0.382 0.125 0.003 - 0.618 0.197 0.011
	9	0	24/23 6/2	-0.455 ( -0.335)
			0.377 0.106 0.003 - 0.623 0.208 0.008
	10	0	24/23 8/4	-0.490 ( -0.370)
			0.375 0.112 0.004 - 0.625 0.224 0.013

A few more variants I found interesting ATS

Blue with 8 in the zone and extra man on the 13 point.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, boo 1 (match to 5 points)

Move number 4: boo to play 41

gnubg	145
boo	143
Position ID: mHeYASFmTvABAw Match ID: cAmmAAAACAAE

• boo moves 6/5*/1*

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	6/5*/1*	+0.402
			0.532 0.225 0.050 - 0.468 0.100 0.009 +0.255 +0.402 0.001 0.002 0.004 - 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.003 0.007
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			2696 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727667501 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	2	R	13/9 6/5*	+0.309 ( -0.093)
			0.539 0.199 0.028 - 0.461 0.117 0.006 +0.207 +0.309 0.001 0.001 0.003 - 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.003 0.007
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			2696 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727667501 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	3	R	13/8	+0.269 ( -0.133)
			0.531 0.146 0.018 - 0.469 0.072 0.004 +0.173 +0.269 0.001 0.001 0.002 - 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.002 0.004
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			4709 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727667501 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	4	2	8/4 6/5*	+0.110 ( -0.292)
			0.498 0.155 0.005 - 0.502 0.105 0.003
	5	2	8/3	+0.018 ( -0.383)
			0.481 0.120 0.003 - 0.519 0.093 0.003
	6	0	6/1*	-0.055 ( -0.457)
			0.462 0.131 0.003 - 0.538 0.111 0.004
	7	0	13/9 8/7	-0.083 ( -0.485)
			0.459 0.119 0.004 - 0.541 0.115 0.004
	8	0	8/7 6/2	-0.200 ( -0.602)
			0.429 0.094 0.002 - 0.571 0.111 0.003
	9	0	20/16 6/5*	-0.204 ( -0.606)
			0.464 0.147 0.007 - 0.536 0.222 0.017
	10	0	8/4 2/1*	-0.260 ( -0.661)
			0.413 0.100 0.003 - 0.587 0.122 0.003

Blue with 8 in the zone and extra man on the 20 point.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, boo 1 (match to 5 points)

Move number 3: boo to play 41

gnubg	145
boo	150
Position ID: mHeYASFmTvCAAw Match ID: cAmmAAAACAAE

• boo moves 13/9 6/5*

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	13/9 6/5*	+0.192
			0.514 0.186 0.025 - 0.486 0.140 0.009 +0.107 +0.192 0.001 0.002 0.003 - 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.003 0.008
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1614 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727676572 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	2	R	20/16 6/5*	+0.183 ( -0.009)
			0.510 0.188 0.039 - 0.490 0.144 0.010 +0.098 +0.183 0.001 0.003 0.004 - 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.004 0.010
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1613 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727676572 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	3	R	6/5*/1*	+0.164 ( -0.028)
			0.497 0.195 0.025 - 0.503 0.118 0.008 +0.115 +0.164 0.001 0.002 0.003 - 0.001 0.001 0.001 0.003 0.008
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1613 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 727676572 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	4	2	13/8	+0.114 ( -0.078)
			0.502 0.125 0.003 - 0.498 0.078 0.002
	5	2	8/4 6/5*	-0.034 ( -0.226)
			0.468 0.143 0.004 - 0.532 0.123 0.004
	6	2	8/3	-0.114 ( -0.306)
			0.449 0.111 0.003 - 0.551 0.108 0.003
	7	2	20/15	-0.164 ( -0.356)
			0.440 0.106 0.004 - 0.560 0.118 0.004
	8	0	6/1*	-0.177 ( -0.369)
			0.433 0.121 0.003 - 0.567 0.124 0.005
	9	0	20/16 8/7	-0.199 ( -0.391)
			0.436 0.109 0.004 - 0.564 0.137 0.005
	10	0	13/9 8/7	-0.218 ( -0.410)
			0.430 0.108 0.003 - 0.570 0.134 0.005

Same variants for money

Blue with 8 in the zone and extra man on the 13 point.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, boo 1

Move number 3: boo to play 41

gnubg	145
boo	143
Position ID: mHeYASFmTvABAw Match ID: cAkGAAAACAAA

• boo moves 6/5*/1*

Alert: doubtful move ( -0.026)

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	13/9 6/5*	+0.251
			0.541 0.195 0.006 - 0.459 0.120 0.005 +0.161 +0.251 0.001 0.001 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.008
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 726854543 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
•	2	R	6/5*/1*	+0.225 ( -0.026)
			0.531 0.216 0.004 - 0.469 0.101 0.004 +0.177 +0.225 0.001 0.002 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.010
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 726854543 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	3	2	13/8	+0.184 ( -0.067)
			0.543 0.136 0.003 - 0.457 0.070 0.002
	4	2	8/4 6/5*	+0.045 ( -0.206)
			0.498 0.156 0.005 - 0.502 0.105 0.003
	5	2	8/3	-0.031 ( -0.282)
			0.481 0.119 0.003 - 0.519 0.094 0.003
	6	2	6/1*	-0.097 ( -0.348)
			0.464 0.126 0.003 - 0.536 0.111 0.003
	7	0	13/9 8/7	-0.115 ( -0.366)
			0.459 0.119 0.004 - 0.541 0.115 0.004
	8	0	20/16 6/5*	-0.183 ( -0.434)
			0.464 0.147 0.007 - 0.536 0.222 0.017
	9	0	8/7 6/2	-0.223 ( -0.474)
			0.429 0.094 0.002 - 0.571 0.111 0.003
	10	0	8/4 2/1*	-0.274 ( -0.525)
			0.413 0.100 0.003 - 0.587 0.122 0.003

Blue with 8 in the zone and extra man on the 20 point.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 0, boo 1

Move number 3: boo to play 41

gnubg	145
boo	150
Position ID: mHeYASFmTvCAAw Match ID: cAkGAAAACAAA

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	13/9 6/5*	+0.112
			0.514 0.185 0.006 - 0.486 0.141 0.005 +0.075 +0.112 0.002 0.002 0.000 - 0.002 0.002 0.000 0.004 0.011
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1039 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 726826484 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	2	R	20/16 6/5*	+0.072 ( -0.040)
			0.509 0.179 0.007 - 0.491 0.144 0.006 +0.054 +0.072 0.002 0.002 0.000 - 0.002 0.002 0.000 0.004 0.012
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1039 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 726826484 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	3	R	6/5*/1*	+0.059 ( -0.053)
			0.494 0.194 0.004 - 0.506 0.125 0.004 +0.058 +0.059 0.002 0.002 0.000 - 0.002 0.002 0.002 0.004 0.011
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1039 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 726826484 and quasi-random dice
			Stop when std.errs. are small enough: ratio 0.001 (min. 180 games)
			Play: 2-ply cubeful
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful
	4	2	13/8	+0.049 ( -0.063)
			0.502 0.125 0.003 - 0.498 0.078 0.002
	5	2	8/4 6/5*	-0.076 ( -0.188)
			0.469 0.144 0.005 - 0.531 0.124 0.004
	6	2	8/3	-0.146 ( -0.258)
			0.449 0.112 0.003 - 0.551 0.108 0.003
	7	2	20/16 8/7	-0.173 ( -0.285)
			0.447 0.113 0.004 - 0.553 0.125 0.004
	8	2	20/15	-0.190 ( -0.302)
			0.440 0.107 0.004 - 0.560 0.119 0.004
	9	2	6/1*	-0.223 ( -0.335)
			0.432 0.115 0.003 - 0.568 0.127 0.004
	10	2	13/9 8/7	-0.241 ( -0.353)
			0.428 0.119 0.004 - 0.572 0.133 0.004

Messages In This Thread

• Puzzled
  smcrtorchs -- Friday, 8 November 2013, at 8:45 p.m.
  • Puzzled - Ro + variants
    smcrtorchs -- Sunday, 10 November 2013, at 11:09 p.m.
    • When Posting GNU Rollouts
      Stick -- Monday, 11 November 2013, at 8:06 p.m.
      • When Posting GNU Rollouts
        Smcrtorchs -- Monday, 11 November 2013, at 10:29 p.m.
    • Puzzled - Nice variants from Smcrtorchs
      Taper_Mike -- Monday, 11 November 2013, at 9:57 p.m.