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Did someone mention Herb Gurland?

Posted By: Igor
Date: Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 6:33 p.m.

In Response To: Did someone mention Herb Gurland? (Steve Mellen)

It seems so senseless to rely upon shaming, when the backgammon community has the power to simply change the rule.

How exactly can the community change this rule? For example, Bill Davis utterly refuses to change ABT rules to require legal moves despite community input.

Messages In This Thread

• Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
  phil simborg -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 12:14 a.m.
  • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
    ed olaughlin -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 12:28 a.m.
  • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
    Art Grater -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 12:49 a.m.
    • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
      Taper_Mike -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 1:54 a.m.
      • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
        Art Grater -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 8:17 a.m.
        • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
          Taper_Mike -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 8:54 a.m.
          • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
            Art Grater -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 9:06 a.m.
            • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
              Taper_Mike -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 10:32 a.m.
              • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
                Art Grater -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 8:42 p.m.
                • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
                  Taper_Mike -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 9:59 p.m.
                  • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
                    Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 2:18 a.m.
            • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
              phil simborg -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 8:49 p.m.
              • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
                Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 9:29 a.m.
    • Why does every tournament have to be the same?
      phil simborg -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 2:36 a.m.
      • Why does every tournament have to be the same?
        Art Grater -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 8:46 a.m.
        • Why does every tournament have to be the same?
          phil simborg -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 1:23 p.m.
          • Why does every tournament have to be the same?
            Art Grater -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 7:06 p.m.
  • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
    David Rockwell -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 3:40 a.m.
    • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
      Art Grater -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 8:47 a.m.
    • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
      Jason Lee -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 2:19 p.m.
  • How the hell is this even a discussion?????
    David Rennie -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 3:57 a.m.
    • How the hell is this even a discussion?????
      Art Grater -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 8:48 a.m.
      • How the hell is this even a discussion?????
        David Rennie -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 3:54 p.m.
        • How the hell is this even a discussion?????
          Jason Lee -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 4:24 p.m.
          • How the hell is this even a discussion?????
            sita -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 5:09 p.m.
        • How the hell is this even a discussion?????
          Bob Koca -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 5:48 p.m.
          • How the hell is this even a discussion?????
            Taper_Mike -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 8:44 p.m.
            • How the hell is this even a discussion?????
              Bob Koca -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 8:57 p.m.
              • How the hell is this even a discussion?????
                Taper_Mike -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 10:19 p.m.
                • Getting lost in semantics
                  phil simborg -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 11:32 p.m.
                  • Getting lost in semantics
                    Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 3:17 a.m.
                  • A yolk for Phil
                    Art Grater -- Wednesday, 5 March 2014, at 12:10 a.m.
              • How the hell is this even a discussion?????
                David Rockwell -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 10:25 p.m.
        • How the hell is this even a discussion?????
          Art Grater -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 6:00 p.m.
  • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
    Dmitriy Obukhov -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 5:01 a.m.
  • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
    mochy -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 6:48 p.m.
    • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
      Art Grater -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 7:13 p.m.
      • I object
        phil simborg -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 8:27 p.m.
        • I object
          Bob Koca -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 8:47 p.m.
          • I object
            TarHeelFan -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 9:22 p.m.
          • That's different
            phil simborg -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 9:56 p.m.
            • That's different
              Taper_Mike -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 10:28 p.m.
        • I object
          Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 2:04 a.m.
          • I object
            phil simborg -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 3:44 a.m.
            • I object
              Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 4:03 a.m.
    • +1 *NM*
      phil simborg -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 8:53 p.m.
  • Playing The Game With The Most Honourable Of Intentions
    Pat MacNeil -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 7:39 p.m.
  • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
    Roger Foster -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 9:37 p.m.
    • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
      Keene -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 10:29 p.m.
      • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
        Jason Lee -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 10:33 p.m.
        • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
          Keene -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 4:36 p.m.
    • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
      Taper_Mike -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 10:32 p.m.
      • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
        Pat MacNeil -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 11:46 p.m.
        • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
          Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 1:17 a.m.
    • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
      Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 12:24 a.m.
      • I love choices
        phil simborg -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 12:50 a.m.
        • How I implement LM
          Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 1:24 a.m.
          • How I implement LM
            Taper_Mike -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 9:19 a.m.
        • I love choices
          Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 1:41 a.m.
          • I love choices
            Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 3:14 a.m.
            • I love choices
              Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 4:01 a.m.
              • I love choices
                Taper_Mike -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 9:26 a.m.
          • Sorry, but you are wrong
            phil simborg -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 3:38 a.m.
            • Sorry, but you are wrong
              Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 3:47 a.m.
              • Sorry, but you are wrong
                Pat MacNeil -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 4:06 a.m.
              • Sorry, but you are wrong
                phil simborg -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 2:42 p.m.
                • Sorry, but you are wrong
                  Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 9:14 p.m.
        • The draconian nature of NLM
          Taper_Mike -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 9:37 a.m.
        • Did someone mention Herb Gurland?
          Taper_Mike -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 11:05 a.m.
          • Did someone mention Herb Gurland?
            phil simborg -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 2:23 p.m.
            • Watch out for the social animals!
              Taper_Mike -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 3:23 p.m.
              • Watch out for the social animals!
                David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 5:16 p.m.
                • +1000
                  Keene -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 5:19 p.m.
                  • +googol^googol *NM*
                    Michael Petch -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 7:42 p.m.
                • Watch out for the social animals!
                  Taper_Mike -- Wednesday, 5 March 2014, at 1:01 a.m.
                  • Watch out for the social animals!
                    Art Grater -- Wednesday, 5 March 2014, at 3:51 a.m.
                    • Watch out for the social animals!
                      Taper_Mike -- Wednesday, 5 March 2014, at 4:45 a.m.
                      • Watch out for the social animals!
                        David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 5 March 2014, at 5:48 a.m.
                        • Watch out for the social animals!
                          Taper_Mike -- Wednesday, 5 March 2014, at 7:12 a.m.
                          • Watch out for the social animals!
                            Keene -- Wednesday, 5 March 2014, at 4:47 p.m.
                          • This misses the entire point
                            phil simborg -- Wednesday, 5 March 2014, at 8:38 p.m.
                • Watch out for the social animals! +1 *NM*
                  Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 5 March 2014, at 6:14 p.m.
            • Did someone mention Herb Gurland?
              Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 9:09 p.m.
          • Did someone mention Herb Gurland?
            Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 2:24 p.m.
            • +1 *NM*
              phil simborg -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 2:37 p.m.
            • +1
              Taper_Mike -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 3:50 p.m.
              • +1
                Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 5:04 p.m.
            • Did someone mention Herb Gurland?
              Igor -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 6:33 p.m.
              • Good Question!
                phil simborg -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 7:50 p.m.
                • Good Question!
                  Igor -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 8:30 p.m.
                  • Good Question!
                    Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 8:43 p.m.
                    • Good Question!
                      Igor -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 9:25 p.m.
                      • Good Question!
                        Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 11:29 p.m.
                    • Proposed: The Art Grater Rule
                      Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 10:00 p.m.
                      • Proposed: The Art Grater Rule
                        Keene -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 10:45 p.m.
                        • Proposed: The Art Grater Rule
                          Art Grater -- Wednesday, 5 March 2014, at 12:30 a.m.
                      • Proposed: The Art Grater Rule
                        Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 11:29 p.m.
                  • Good Question!
                    Michael Petch -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 9:37 p.m.
                  • Good Question!
                    mfic -- Thursday, 13 March 2014, at 10:50 p.m.
              • Time to do a real poll
                David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 9:06 p.m.
                • Time to do a real poll
                  Igor -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 9:28 p.m.
                • Time to do a real poll
                  Dmitriy Obukhov -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 10:54 p.m.
                • Time to do a real poll
                  mfic -- Thursday, 13 March 2014, at 10:31 p.m.
          • It Wasn't Herb Either
            Pat MacNeil -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 5:16 p.m.
            • It Wasn't Herb Either
              mamabear -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 5:56 p.m.
              • It Wasn't Herb Either
                Pat MacNeil -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 6:20 p.m.
                • It Wasn't Herb Either
                  Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 5 March 2014, at 1:16 a.m.
              • Respect?
                phil simborg -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 6:35 p.m.
                • Not Prevously discussed in this thread
                  phil simborg -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 7:23 p.m.
                  • Not Prevously discussed in this thread
                    Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 8:52 p.m.
                  • Not Prevously discussed in this thread
                    Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 5 March 2014, at 9:11 a.m.
      • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 1:48 a.m.
        • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
          Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 1:56 a.m.
          • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
            Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 4:10 a.m.
            • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
              Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 5:50 a.m.
              • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 11:37 a.m.
              • Great Idea--Let's make all rules Optional
                phil simborg -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 2:07 p.m.
                • Great Idea--Let's make all rules Optional
                  Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 9:50 p.m.
      • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
        TarHeelFan -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 2:24 a.m.
        • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
          Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 2:59 a.m.
          • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
            TarHeelFan -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 1:05 p.m.
            • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
              Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 8:28 p.m.
              • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
                TarHeelFan -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 9:38 p.m.
                • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
                  Art Grater -- Wednesday, 5 March 2014, at 12:44 a.m.
    • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 1:29 a.m.
  • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
    Daniel Murphy -- Monday, 3 March 2014, at 11:14 p.m.
  • Imagine something like this....
    DanielP -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 12:54 p.m.
    • agree except for one thing
      phil simborg -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 1:49 p.m.
      • yes, but....
        DanielP -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 3:39 p.m.
        • +1 *NM*
          phil simborg -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 4:33 p.m.
    • Imagine something like this....
      Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 9:30 p.m.
      • Imagine something like this....
        Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 11:05 p.m.
    • Billy Meet Willy
      Pat MacNeil -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 11:49 p.m.
  • The Biased Non-biased Poll
    Rod -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 3:12 p.m.
  • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll
    Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 4 March 2014, at 5:14 p.m.
  • Non-biased Legal vs. non-legal moves poll *NM*
    Stein Kulseth -- Sunday, 9 March 2014, at 12:29 p.m.
    • repost (bulletin board does not accept 1-char messages)
      Stein Kulseth -- Sunday, 9 March 2014, at 12:46 p.m.