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41S-32-C and 41S-32Z at p-2, cube rollouts

Posted By: Nack Ballard
Date: Thursday, 27 March 2014, at 6:31 a.m.

In Response To: 41S-32 P2a RO (David Rockwell)

Sorry to rain on whomever's parade, but I'm getting somewhat different results for two of the three positions. (I didn't bother rolling out 41S-32D-C, which looks like an obvious double/pass to me. In other words, I agree with that one.)

According to the rollout results below (which you'll see side-by-side if you widen your window enough), at the p–2 score, 41S-32S-C and 41S-32Z-C are both proper doubles (though in the second case with only 52% confidence, it is basically still a tie at 31k), i.e., NOT too good to double.

The equities of the player playing S (Split, 24/21 13/11) or Z (reverse split, 24/22 13/10) when the cube remains centered are:

........David:...S = –1.0044 (20k), or Z = –1.0125 (5k)
........Nack:....S = –0.9930 (20k), or Z = –1.0000 (31k)

What is the explanation for the differences between David's results and mine? Some factors that occur to me to explain all or part are:

(1) I used XGR++. He used XGR+.
(2) I used direct cube rollout. (Has it been proven that rolling out checker play equities yield proper cube decisions with the same reliability?)
(3) Variance.

Any thoughts?

Nack

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White is Player 2

score: 1
pip: 162
2 point match
pip: 162
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-a--a-E-CA--dDa--c-e---AA-:0:0:1:00:0:1:0:2:10

41S-32S-C
p–2 [D 1126–133] "<=20


Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take
Player Winning Chances: 53.210% (G:16.482% B:1.232%) 53.163% (G:19.434% B:2.581%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 46.790% (G:12.511% B:1.023%) 46.837% (G:13.196% B:1.636%)
Cubeless Equities +0.3938 +1.1265
Cubeful Equities
No double:+0.9930 (-0.0070)±0.0021 (+0.9909..+0.9951)
Double/Take:+1.1265 (+0.1265)±0.0029 (+1.1236..+1.1294)
Double/Pass:+1.0000
Best Cube action: Double / Pass
Rollout details
20736 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 79553643
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 13 hours 46 minutes




White is Player 2

score: 1
pip: 162
2 point match
pip: 162
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-a-a--E-CA--dD-a-c-e---AA-:0:0:1:00:0:1:0:2:10

41S-32Z-C
p–2 [D 1129–129] "<=31


Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take
Player Winning Chances: 53.255% (G:16.378% B:0.981%) 53.231% (G:19.238% B:2.476%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 46.745% (G:12.714% B:0.948%) 46.769% (G:13.781% B:1.630%)
Cubeless Equities +0.3927 +1.1293
Cubeful Equities
No double:+1.0000 (0.0000)±0.0016 (+0.9984..+1.0015)
Double/Take:+1.1293 (+0.1293)±0.0023 (+1.1269..+1.1316)
Double/Pass:+1.0000
Best Cube action: Double / Pass
Rollout details
31104 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 64026929
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:52.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 16 hours 40 minutes

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