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You cannot start both clocks when both players are late!

Posted By: Taper_Mike
Date: Friday, 30 May 2014, at 7:00 a.m.

In Response To: You cannot start both clocks when both players are late! (Matt Cohn-Geier)

I don't get it. Why is this hard?

Because the director must first find, and then visit, your board. Once there, he has to muck around with your clock. Compare this to the effort required to simply assign the penalty points.

In addition, when both players are late, there is no board for a director to visit, and no clock for him to start. As I noted in my previous post, the director must also keep an eagle eye out in order to determine precisely when the first of the two laggards arrives. It is easy to imagine that he might be involved in some other duty, and end up imposing a stiffer penalty than was actually incurred.

I am sympathetic to your argument that a tardy player who is given his full time bank might still cause a match to run late. Two ideas occur to me:

  1. More times than not there will be fewer games played in a match where penalty points have been assigned. For each game that is not played, there will be, say, 15-30 moves for each player that are never made. For each of those, there are as many as 12 seconds of delay time that won't be used. Ergo, the duration of the match will be shorter than that of the same match without penalty points.
  2. If you are still determined that a time penalty should be assessed, why not go with the idea suggested elsewhere in this thread? Impose both a points penalty and a time penalty. Taking, say, 1 minute off the clocks of both players for each penalty point that was awarded would be a fair way to represent the time that might have been used had those points been won by playing. I know that 2 minutes per point is the usual allotment, so docking only 1 minute per penalty point would not be unduly harsh. It would, however, help to keep the tournament running on schedule.

Mike

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