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Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis

Posted By: Jason Lee
Date: Monday, 28 March 2016, at 8:59 p.m.

In Response To: Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis (Bill Riles)

Many of you are making a big mistake with regard to language. I've stated now, quite clearly, that I am using a definition of cheating that does not connote malice. Then, subsequent to this clarification, you are using a different definition cheating to interpret what I have said. Absent a clarification on my part, you certainly could be free to interpret my words in a particular way, but now you cannot.

I stand by what I have said 100%. I think Mitrelis cheated, but I do not think he did so maliciously -- I don't think in any way he was trying gain an unfair advantage. If anything, he was trying to help Ed out, and was trying to do what he thought was the right thing. Ed bears some culpability in this, as he apparently made several illegal moves in the match.

I'm sorry if my words got construed in such a way as to seem that I was levying an accusation upon Mitrelis. I am not. I should have clarified my word choice from the very outset.

JLee

Messages In This Thread

• Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
  Bill Riles -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 1:21 a.m.
  • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
    Kevin Finch -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 1:36 a.m.
    • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
      Kevin McDonough -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 1:47 a.m.
      • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
        Jason Lee -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 1:53 a.m.
        • +1. Nordic quarters....
          Bill Finneran -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 1:59 a.m.
        • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
          garyo -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 2:05 a.m.
        • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
          Michael Klein -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 2:52 a.m.
        • NOT cheating
          Casper Van der Tak -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 9:04 a.m.
        • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
          Jason Lee -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 11:45 a.m.
          • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
            vidvis -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 12:43 p.m.
            • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
              Jason Lee -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 1:30 p.m.
              • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 2:24 p.m.
                • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                  Jason Lee -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 4:04 p.m.
                  • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                    Barry Silliman -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 4:37 p.m.
                    • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                      Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 4:59 p.m.
                  • +100000
                    neilkaz -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 5:10 p.m.
                    • +100000
                      Colin Owen -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 5:44 p.m.
                      • +100000
                        Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 5:59 p.m.
                        • +100000
                          Colin Owen -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 6:09 p.m.
                • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- EuBGF Rules
                  Rick Janowski -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 6:43 p.m.
                  • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- EuBGF Rules
                    Grant Hoffman -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 7:16 p.m.
                    • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- EuBGF Rules
                      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 7:47 p.m.
                    • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- EuBGF Rules
                      Rick Janowski -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 9:57 p.m.
          • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
            lucky -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 1:33 p.m.
            • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
              Bill Riles -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 2:30 p.m.
              • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 2:39 p.m.
                • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                  Bill Riles -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 2:48 p.m.
                  • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                    Barry Silliman -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 3:15 p.m.
                    • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                      Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 3:22 p.m.
                      • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                        Barry Silliman -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 3:49 p.m.
                        • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                          Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 4:57 p.m.
                          • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                            Barry Silliman -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 5:39 p.m.
                    • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                      Bill Riles -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 3:33 p.m.
            • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
              Jason Lee -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 3:58 p.m.
              • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                Albert Steg -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 4:38 p.m.
              • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                Timothy Chow -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 4:43 p.m.
                • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                  Stick -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 4:48 p.m.
                  • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                    Timothy Chow -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 5:04 p.m.
                    • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                      Jason Lee -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 6:30 p.m.
              • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                Albert Steg -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 6:46 p.m.
                • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                  Jason Lee -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 7:10 p.m.
                  • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                    Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 8:38 p.m.
                  • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                    Albert Steg -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 2:31 a.m.
                    • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 3:59 a.m.
                • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                  Barry Silliman -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 7:17 p.m.
                  • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                    Mike Clapsadle -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 7:53 p.m.
                    • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
                      Barry Silliman -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 8:17 p.m.
        • See something - Say something
          Bill Finneran -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 1:28 p.m.
          • See something - Say something
            Barry Silliman -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 1:49 p.m.
            • See something - Say something
              Barry Silliman -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 2:02 p.m.
            • See something - Say something
              niuniuch -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 4:39 p.m.
              • See something - Say something
                Barry Silliman -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 5:50 p.m.
      • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
        Bill Riles -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 1:57 a.m.
      • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
        Kevin Finch -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 2:08 a.m.
        • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
          Kevin McDonough -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 2:12 a.m.
          • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
            Kevin Finch -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 2:27 a.m.
            • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
              Casper Van der Tak -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 8:59 a.m.
          • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
            Bill Riles -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 2:27 a.m.
          • Position of the dispute
            Kevin McDonough -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 2:39 a.m.
    • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
      Bill Riles -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 1:58 a.m.
  • Actual Position (Video) and Short Rollouts
    Chris Yep -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 12:14 p.m.
    • Actual Position (Video) and Short Rollouts
      Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 2:17 p.m.
    • my take on the situation
      christian munk-christensen -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 7:30 p.m.
      • my take on the situation
        Casper Van der Tak -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 7:41 p.m.
      • Ed will be fined by his local club director
        Barry Silliman -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 7:47 p.m.
        • Ed will be fined by his local club director
          Bill Riles -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 8:01 p.m.
          • Ed will be fined by his local club director
            Barry Silliman -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 8:26 p.m.
            • Ed will be fined by his local club director - Barry or Frank
              Bill Finneran -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 8:29 p.m.
              • Ed will be fined by his local club director - Barry or Frank
                Barry Silliman -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 8:52 p.m.
                • Ed will be fined by his local club director - Barry or Frank
                  Bill Finneran -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 10:11 p.m.
      • my take on the situation
        Colin Owen -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 8:45 p.m.
      • my take on the situation
        Bill Riles -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 10:37 p.m.
        • It must be mentioned
          neilkaz -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 11:02 p.m.
  • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
    Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 2:19 p.m.
  • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
    Jason Lee -- Monday, 28 March 2016, at 8:59 p.m.
    • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
      Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 5:45 p.m.
      • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
        Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 7:45 p.m.
  • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
    tuvi -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 2:23 a.m.
  • Did Ed complain too late?!
    Martin -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 1:06 p.m.
    • Did Ed complain too late?!
      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 1:55 p.m.
      • Did Ed complain too late?!
        Martin -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 3:38 p.m.
        • Did Ed complain too late?!
          Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 4:37 p.m.
          • Did Ed complain too late?!
            Martin -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 7:59 p.m.
    • Did Ed complain too late?!
      Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 2:29 p.m.
      • Can you roll your dice when the opponent is away?
        Taper_Mike -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 5:37 a.m.
        • Can you roll your dice when the opponent is away?
          Martin -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 5:44 a.m.
          • Can you roll your dice when the opponent is away?
            Taper_Mike -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 11:12 a.m.
            • Can you roll your dice when the opponent is away?
              Martin -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 6:01 p.m.
        • Can you roll your dice when the opponent is away?
          Colin Owen -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 12:12 p.m.
          • Can you roll your dice when the opponent is away?
            Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 2:31 p.m.
        • Can you roll your dice when the opponent is away?
          Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 2:29 p.m.
          • Can you roll your dice when the opponent is away?
            Taper_Mike -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 8:25 p.m.
  • Nordic Open Ruling in Quarterfinals -- O'Laughlin vs. Mitrelis
    BGgreekplayer -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 3:31 p.m.
  • Main takeaways
    AP -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 7:23 p.m.
  • Relevant EuBGF Rules used at the Nordic Open
    Rick Janowski -- Tuesday, 29 March 2016, at 10:13 p.m.
    • Relevant EuBGF Rules used at the Nordic Open (an improvement)
      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 2:46 a.m.
      • Relevant EuBGF Rules used at the Nordic Open (an improvement)
        Rick Janowski -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 3:14 a.m.
        • Relevant EuBGF Rules used at the Nordic Open (where no clocks used)
          Rick Janowski -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 3:23 a.m.
        • Relevant EuBGF Rules used at the Nordic Open (an improvement)
          Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 4:01 a.m.
      • Relevant EuBGF Rules used at the Nordic Open (an improvement)
        Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 3:59 a.m.
        • Relevant EuBGF Rules used at the Nordic Open (an improvement)
          Martin -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 5:53 a.m.
          • Relevant EuBGF Rules used at the Nordic Open (an improvement)
            Colin Owen -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 11:10 a.m.
            • Relevant EuBGF Rules used at the Nordic Open (an improvement)
              Martin -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 6:03 p.m.
            • Relevant EuBGF Rules used at the Nordic Open (an improvement)
              neilkaz -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 7:58 p.m.
      • EuBGF Rules seem about right to me.
        Taper_Mike -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 5:04 a.m.
        • EuBGF Rules seem about right to me.
          Rick Janowski -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 9:51 a.m.
        • EuBGF Rules seem about right to me.
          Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 2:22 p.m.
      • Relevant EuBGF Rules used at the Nordic Open (an improvement)
        Colin Owen -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 12:37 p.m.
        • Relevant EuBGF Rules used at the Nordic Open (an improvement)
          Casper Van der Tak -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 1:44 p.m.
          • Relevant EuBGF Rules used at the Nordic Open (an improvement)
            christian munk-christensen -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 3:59 p.m.
            • Relevant EuBGF Rules used at the Nordic Open (an improvement)
              Casper Van der Tak -- Wednesday, 30 March 2016, at 4:03 p.m.