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Using Noisy Evaluations to Measure Performance

Posted By: Maik Stiebler
Date: Friday, 1 April 2016, at 4:18 p.m.

In Response To: Using Noisy Evaluations to Measure Performance (Chris Yep)

(e.g. complex positions that are equally difficult for both players to play)

If complexity for both sides is generally strongly correlated, I see that there is a valid reason to account for high complexity. But I don't know that. And I think it might be more transparent to account for making your opponents' life more difficult by another number that is not the PR. For example, the statistics could tell that your PR is 5 and your opponents' average PR in their matches against you is higher by 2 than their normal average.

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