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Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice

Posted By: winfox
Date: Friday, 26 August 2016, at 1:43 a.m.

In Response To: Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice (Phil Simborg)

If the nature of rounded edges results in some bias, however miniscule, then surely that is just another random factor equal to both players.

But if the purpose of this thread is to somehow overcome the imperfection, rather than just state a simple fact and get on with accepting it, and also if it cannot be resolved electronically, we are stuck with the technology of imprecise precision dice through which some players could possibly steal a slight advantage.

One way to remove even this level of 'predictability' is to keep a covered box/bag of same coloured precision dice by the board, and a player completes his move by picking up his dice and dropping them into the box/bag. Thereafter, an official scrambler shakes the box/bag vigorously and the next player takes two dice to roll.

That should satisfy even the most concerned that a variance of up to 0.0002 inch may be potentially lethal.

Messages In This Thread

• Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
  Phil Simborg -- Wednesday, 24 August 2016, at 10:40 p.m.
  • Data
    Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 24 August 2016, at 10:57 p.m.
    • Data
      Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 12:44 a.m.
      • Data
        Bob Koca -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 12:57 a.m.
        • Data
          Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 4:54 a.m.
          • Data
            Bob Koca -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 5:17 a.m.
            • Data
              Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 12:34 p.m.
              • Which question were you answering?
                Bob Koca -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 2:47 p.m.
                • Which question were you answering?
                  Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 3:52 p.m.
              • Data
                Bob Koca -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 4:15 p.m.
                • this response is for the 4:52pm post *NM*
                  Bob Koca -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 4:17 p.m.
      • Data
        Art Grater -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 1:33 a.m.
      • ... made less precise by cutting off the corners
        vidvis -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 4:34 p.m.
        • Beg to differ
          Chris Knapp -- Friday, 26 August 2016, at 1:23 a.m.
        • ... made less precise by cutting off the corners
          Phil Simborg -- Friday, 26 August 2016, at 1:33 p.m.
          • ... made less precise by cutting off the corners
            Albert Steg -- Friday, 26 August 2016, at 3:24 p.m.
  • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
    Art Grater -- Wednesday, 24 August 2016, at 11:26 p.m.
    • Laboratory Certification of RNG RandomnessBackgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
      Mleifer -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 5:07 p.m.
      • Laboratory Certification of RNG RandomnessBackgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
        Art Grater -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 6:06 p.m.
        • Laboratory Certification of RNG RandomnessBackgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
          Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 6:40 p.m.
  • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
    Seth -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 1:24 a.m.
    • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
      Art Grater -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 1:36 a.m.
      • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
        Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 2:27 a.m.
        • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
          Art Grater -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 8:19 a.m.
        • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
          Seth -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 3:08 p.m.
  • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
    Albert Steg -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 1:39 a.m.
    • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
      Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 2:23 a.m.
      • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
        Bob Koca -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 3:21 a.m.
      • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
        David Rennie -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 3:45 a.m.
        • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice--cheaters will cheat
          Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 4:43 a.m.
      • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
        Albert Steg -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 2:10 p.m.
        • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
          Colin Owen -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 2:34 p.m.
          • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
            Albert Steg -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 2:42 p.m.
            • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
              Colin Owen -- Friday, 26 August 2016, at 1:56 p.m.
        • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
          Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 3:44 p.m.
          • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
            Albert Steg -- Friday, 26 August 2016, at 1:20 a.m.
        • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
          Art Grater -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 6:11 p.m.
      • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
        winfox -- Friday, 26 August 2016, at 1:43 a.m.
  • I think it's a bit sad really
    Alex Schofield -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 6:51 a.m.
    • I think it's a bit sad really
      Art Grater -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 8:35 a.m.
  • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
    TarHeelFan -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 11:36 a.m.
    • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
      Art Grater -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 5:32 p.m.
  • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
    TraumaBG -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 12:34 p.m.
  • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
    Bob Koca -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 2:43 p.m.
  • Not a big problem at all IMHO
    Casper Van der Tak -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 3:28 p.m.
  • Don't shoot the messanger!
    Casper Van der Tak -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 4:30 p.m.
  • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
    Rick Janowski -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 4:32 p.m.
  • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice. WRONG!!
    Chris Knapp -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 6:09 p.m.
  • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
    alwoods -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 7:54 p.m.
    • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
      Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 8:51 p.m.
      • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
        Kevin McDonough -- Thursday, 25 August 2016, at 9:32 p.m.
  • What exactly are you testing?
    Chris Knapp -- Friday, 26 August 2016, at 12:27 a.m.
  • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
    Michael -- Friday, 26 August 2016, at 4:16 p.m.
    • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
      TarHeelFan -- Friday, 26 August 2016, at 4:39 p.m.
      • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
        Michael -- Friday, 26 August 2016, at 6:54 p.m.
  • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
    Frank Berger -- Friday, 26 August 2016, at 7:30 p.m.
    • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
      Neil Robins -- Saturday, 27 August 2016, at 2:44 p.m.
      • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
        Art Grater -- Saturday, 27 August 2016, at 5:21 p.m.
    • DUPLICATED_BACKGAMMON_will be decision
      Jakob Garal -- Tuesday, 30 August 2016, at 10:13 p.m.
  • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
    Chuck Bower -- Friday, 26 August 2016, at 9:51 p.m.
  • I don't buy it
    Steve Mellen -- Saturday, 27 August 2016, at 8:15 p.m.
  • Backgammon Dice are NEVER precision dice
    svilo -- Sunday, 28 August 2016, at 2:25 p.m.