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OTB, RO, etc etc., and VARIANTS
Posted By: Nack Ballard In Response To: OTB, RO, etc etc. (neilkaz)
Date: Wednesday, 22 November 2017, at 2:17 a.m.
White is Player 2
score: 1
pip: 14915 point match pip: 144
score: 8
Blue is Player 1XGID=---aBBC-C--AeB---d-e---AA-:0:0:1:00:8:1:0:15:10 Original position
Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take Player Winning Chances: 66.600% (G:33.397% B:0.996%) 66.817% (G:34.417% B:1.653%) Opponent Winning Chances: 33.400% (G:6.703% B:0.346%) 33.183% (G:6.944% B:0.381%) Cubeless Equities +0.6067 +1.1165 Cubeful Equities No double: +0.6342 ±0.0111 (+0.6231..+0.6453) Double/Take: +0.5608 (-0.0734) ±0.0153 (+0.5455..+0.5761) Double/Pass: +1.0000 (+0.3658) Best Cube action: No double / Take Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 14.3% Rollout details 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 87356923
Moves and cube decisions: 4-plyDouble Decision confidence: 100.0% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 24 minutes 08 seconds eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2
Neil's rollout of his original position appears above. It is a clear No Double AtS (though probably a bare take for money, as Neil's 1k supplemental rollout showed).
If we give Blue 3 pips by moving his leading back checker from 23/20, as shown in Variant 1 below, his cube status jumps to a borderline>/i> No Double.
White is Player 2
score: 1
pip: 14915 point match pip: 141
score: 8
Blue is Player 1XGID=---aBBC-C--AeB---d-eA---A-:0:0:1:00:8:1:0:15:10 Variant 1 (Compared to original, Blue gains 23/20)
Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take Player Winning Chances: 69.03% (G:32.99% B:0.74%) 69.18% (G:33.02% B:0.98%) Opponent Winning Chances: 30.97% (G:5.24% B:0.24%) 30.82% (G:5.37% B:0.26%) Cubeless Equities +0.664 +1.218 Cubeful Equities No double: +0.744 ±0.007 (+0.737..+0.750) Double/Take: +0.739 (-0.005) ±0.010 (+0.729..+0.749) Double/Pass: +1.000 (+0.256) Best Cube action: No double / Take Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 1.8% Rollout details 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 16319810
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 79.2% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 57 minutes 24 seconds eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2
Or here is a different 3 pips 8/5, as shown in Variant 2 below, where Blue inches just over the line to a borderline Double:
White is Player 2
score: 1
pip: 14915 point match pip: 141
score: 8
Blue is Player 1XGID=---aBCC-B--AeB---d-e---AA-:0:0:1:00:8:1:0:15:10 Variant 2 (Compared to original, Blue gains 8/5)
Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take Player Winning Chances: 68.74% (G:36.31% B:0.87%) 68.89% (G:36.59% B:1.25%) Opponent Winning Chances: 31.26% (G:6.07% B:0.32%) 31.11% (G:6.25% B:0.33%) Cubeless Equities +0.684 +1.248 Cubeful Equities No double: +0.737 (-0.005) ±0.007 (+0.731..+0.744) Double/Take: +0.743 ±0.010 (+0.732..+0.753) Double/Pass: +1.000 (+0.257) Best Cube action: Double / Take Rollout details 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 16319810
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 80.3% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 55 minutes 04 seconds eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2
What if Blue owns her 7pt? This is a change of 11/7 8/7 from original position, as shown in Variant 3 below. Much stronger, of course, but still not enough to evoke a correct drop AtS.
White is Player 2
score: 1
pip: 14915 point match pip: 139
score: 8
Blue is Player 1XGID=---aBBCBB---eB---d-e---AA-:0:0:1:00:8:1:0:15:10 Variant 3 (Compared to original, Blue made prime with 11/7 8/7)
Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take Player Winning Chances: 71.73% (G:37.17% B:1.03%) 71.88% (G:37.04% B:1.34%) Opponent Winning Chances: 28.27% (G:5.25% B:0.23%) 28.12% (G:5.30% B:0.25%) Cubeless Equities +0.763 +1.399 Cubeful Equities No double: +0.835 (-0.121) ±0.006 (+0.828..+0.841) Double/Take: +0.956 ±0.010 (+0.946..+0.966) Double/Pass: +1.000 (+0.044) Best Cube action: Double / Take Rollout details 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 75076730
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 100.0% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 27 minutes 52 seconds eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2
Above, if Blue is given merely the additional pip above of 23/22, his equity rises from .956 to 1.032 and he's got his pass (rollout not shown).
Or, from the above position, if we BREAK Blue's 7pt with 7/4, his equity rises from .956 to the borderline take of 1.030, as shown in Variant 4 below. (Or breaks of 7/5, 8/5 or 8/4 gain similarly.) The extra attacking builder is worth more than having five points in a row.
Nack
White is Player 2
score: 1
pip: 14915 point match pip: 136
score: 8
Blue is Player 1XGID=---aCBCAB---eB---d-e---AA-:0:0:1:00:8:1:0:15:10 Variant 4 (Compared to original, Blue gains 11/7 8/4)
Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take Player Winning Chances: 72.01% (G:40.99% B:0.96%) 72.10% (G:41.60% B:1.30%) Opponent Winning Chances: 27.99% (G:5.31% B:0.26%) 27.90% (G:5.39% B:0.29%) Cubeless Equities +0.805 +1.482 Cubeful Equities No double: +0.853 (-0.147) ±0.006 (+0.846..+0.859) Double/Take: +1.030 (+0.030) ±0.010 (+1.020..+1.041) Double/Pass: +1.000 Best Cube action: Double / Pass Rollout details 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 75076730
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 100.0% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 26 minutes 08 seconds eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2
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