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Long Strong XG RO of 41$11

Posted By: Nack Ballard
Date: Tuesday, 24 November 2009, at 1:54 a.m.

In Response To: Long Strong XG RO of 41$11 (neilkaz)

Thanks, Neil, for sharing the long strong XG rollout result of 41$-11.

The money data that I have or know about for 41$-11 so far is:

Bot	Margin	#Trials	Moves, Cube	Notes
Snowie	22.0	31k	3-ply, 3-ply
Snowie	21.2	41k	3-ply, 3-ply	Cube-adj. (Janowski)
GNU	22.3	11k	4-ply, 4-ply	Roller: Neil Kaz
GNU	-3.5	46k	3-ply, 3-ply	At bgonline site
XG	9.8	36k	3-ply, 4-ply	Roller: Neil Kaz
XG	10.0	62k	3-ply, 3-ply	Roller: Ken Bame

All results are with a live cube except in the second Snowie row (as noted). The number in the margin column is the number of thousandths by which Hitting (24/20*) beats Near (8/7(2) 6/5(2); e.g., "22.0" means that Hitting beats Near by .022, and "-3.5" means that Hitting loses to Near by .0035.

In my table, "Gnu 3-ply" is really Gnu 2-ply, but it is the same depth that the other bots call 3-ply. The depth-of ply is underlined as a reminder. [If this proves to be an unpopular convention, in future tables I'll revert to the traditional (inconsistent) way to list Gnu ply.]

In the first of the two Gnu rows, was your rollout really 3-ply, 3-ply (what I'm calling 4-ply, 4-ply)? I'm going only by vague recall, as I seem unable to find your post in the bgonline archives.

Both XG margins are text-reported to three decimal places as 10 (i.e., .010), but these are rounded. Your equities are .146 and .137 (hence my shaving from 10 to a guessed 9.8 margin) and Ken's are .150 and .140 (hence no better guess than 10).

[I also jotted down a while back an XG rollout result with rounded equities of .144 and .136 (yielding a margin of .007) after 28,944 trials. I don’t remember the source, so I can’t verify the strength of the settings.]

Nack

Messages In This Thread

• Long Strong XG RO of 41$11
  neilkaz -- Monday, 23 November 2009, at 9:13 p.m.
  • Long Strong XG RO of 41$11
    Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 24 November 2009, at 1:54 a.m.
    • Long Strong XG RO of 41$11
      neilkaz -- Tuesday, 24 November 2009, at 3:40 a.m.
      • Long Strong XG RO of 41$11
        Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 24 November 2009, at 5:49 a.m.
      • Long Strong XG RO of 41$11
        Mislav Radica -- Tuesday, 24 November 2009, at 10:10 a.m.
        • Long Strong XG RO of 41$11
          Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 24 November 2009, at 3:16 p.m.
          • DMP RO started and very clear allready
            neilkaz -- Tuesday, 24 November 2009, at 6:51 p.m.
            • DMP RO Result
              neilkaz -- Tuesday, 24 November 2009, at 8:48 p.m.
              • 21$-11 at GS
                Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 24 November 2009, at 10:25 p.m.
                • Nactation question
                  Petter Bengtsson -- Tuesday, 24 November 2009, at 10:53 p.m.
                  • Nactation question
                    Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 25 November 2009, at 3:46 a.m.
                    • Thanks for your answer! *NM*
                      Petter Bengtsson -- Wednesday, 25 November 2009, at 12:19 p.m.
                • 21$-11 at GS
                  neilkaz -- Wednesday, 25 November 2009, at 4:13 a.m.
                • 21$-11 at GS..OK starting RO for the 3 plays *NM*
                  neilkaz -- Wednesday, 25 November 2009, at 8:43 p.m.
          • Thx Nack, nice shortcuts *NM* *NM*
            Mislav Radica -- Wednesday, 25 November 2009, at 2:54 p.m.
    • Long Strong XG RO of 41$11
      Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 24 November 2009, at 6:11 p.m.
      • Long Strong XG RO of 41$11
        Nack Ballard -- Tuesday, 24 November 2009, at 6:54 p.m.