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Rollouts from OLM
Posted By: Stick
Date: Wednesday, 6 June 2007, at 1:17 p.m.
Sorry to botch them altogether like this but since I didn't have time at the time to roll them out I'll post the interesting positions now, one after the other, in case anyone is still interested.
The score (after 0 games) is: Stick 0, Readers 0 (match to 15 points)
Move number 5: Readers to play 13
Stick 152
Readers 156 Position ID: 4LvBASSwt+ABMA Match ID: cInsAQAAAAAA
• Readers moves 24/23 6/3*
# Ply Move Equity 1 R 24/21 8/7 +0.067
0.514 0.140 0.005 - 0.486 0.130 0.005 +0.040 +0.065 0.001 0.002 0.000 - 0.001 0.002 0.000 0.004 0.009 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1063599795 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] • 2 R 24/23 6/3* +0.046 ( -0.021)
0.512 0.159 0.007 - 0.488 0.155 0.009 +0.026 +0.045 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.002 0.001 0.005 0.011 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1063599795 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] 3 R 8/7 6/3* +0.016 ( -0.051)
0.500 0.160 0.006 - 0.500 0.137 0.008 +0.021 +0.016 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.002 0.001 0.006 0.014 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 819 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1063599795 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] 4 R 24/23 8/5 -0.016 ( -0.083)
0.496 0.144 0.004 - 0.504 0.148 0.005 -0.012 -0.016 0.002 0.002 0.000 - 0.002 0.002 0.001 0.004 0.011 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 818 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1063599795 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] 5 R 13/10 8/7 -0.032 ( -0.100)
0.488 0.158 0.006 - 0.512 0.148 0.006 -0.013 -0.032 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.002 0.001 0.006 0.013 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 818 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1063599795 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
The score (after 0 games) is: Stick 0, Readers 0 (match to 15 points)
Move number 7: Readers to play 14
Stick 147
Readers 174 Position ID: mLvBARSwW/AAVA Match ID: cInwAQAAAAAA
• Readers moves bar/24 8/4. At the time I thought this was a must hit. You simply can't allow me free reign and all the other plays suck so bad it to me was the only choice.
Alert: bad move ( -0.097)
# Ply Move Equity 1 R bar/24 6/2* -0.721
0.360 0.081 0.005 - 0.640 0.278 0.041 -0.525 -0.699 0.004 0.002 0.001 - 0.004 0.005 0.004 0.014 0.032 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 1154 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1065044060 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] 2 R bar/24 13/9 -0.775 ( -0.053)
0.360 0.077 0.004 - 0.640 0.298 0.036 -0.545 -0.751 0.004 0.002 0.000 - 0.004 0.004 0.003 0.012 0.029 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 1153 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1065044060 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] • 3 R bar/24 8/4 -0.818 ( -0.097)
0.341 0.078 0.005 - 0.659 0.271 0.029 -0.548 -0.793 0.005 0.003 0.002 - 0.005 0.006 0.005 0.019 0.058 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 324 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1065044060 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] 4 R bar/20 -0.844 ( -0.123)
0.348 0.072 0.003 - 0.652 0.298 0.028 -0.565 -0.819 0.006 0.003 0.001 - 0.006 0.007 0.005 0.020 0.049 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 324 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1065044060 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
The score (after 0 games) is: Stick 0, Readers 0 (match to 15 points)
Move number 9: Stick doubles to 2
Stick 147
Readers 169 Position ID: aDfwADSYu8EBFA Match ID: MBngAQAAAAAA
• Readers accepts
Cube decision Rollout cubeless equity +0.523 (Money: +0.514) Cubeful equities: 1. Double, take +0.787 2. Double, pass +1.000 +0.213 3. No double +0.717 -0.071 Proper cube action: Double, take Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Centered 1-cube 0.653 0.267 0.025 - 0.347 0.079 0.004 +0.523 +0.717 Standard error 0.004 0.004 0.003 - 0.004 0.002 0.001 0.012 0.030 Player Readers owns 2-cube 0.658 0.270 0.029 - 0.342 0.078 0.005 +1.104 +0.787 Standard error 0.005 0.006 0.005 - 0.005 0.003 0.002 0.038 0.058 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 324 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1065044060 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
The score (after 0 games) is: Stick 0, Readers 0 (match to 15 points)
Move number 11: Readers to play 66
Stick 144
Readers 169 Position ID: 2LbBARRoN/AANA Match ID: UQn7AQAAAAAA
• Readers moves 13/1(2)
Alert: unlucky roll! ( -0.374)
# Ply Move Equity • 1 R 13/1(2) -1.029
0.152 0.029 0.001 - 0.848 0.375 0.033 -1.088 -1.029 0.002 0.001 0.000 - 0.002 0.004 0.002 0.007 0.009 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 853 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1062109104 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] 2 R 13/7(4) -1.031 ( -0.002)
0.147 0.021 0.001 - 0.853 0.358 0.032 -1.088 -1.031 0.003 0.001 0.000 - 0.003 0.004 0.002 0.008 0.010 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 853 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1062109104 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
The score (after 0 games) is: Stick 0, Readers 0 (match to 15 points)
Move number 39: Readers on roll, cube decision?
Stick 72
Readers 50 Position ID: 7d0GAATvm8EAAA Match ID: UQngAQAAAAAA
• Readers doubles
Cube decision Rollout cubeless equity +0.381 (Money: +0.382) Cubeful equities: 1. Double, take +0.667 2. Double, pass +1.000 +0.333 3. No double +0.548 -0.120 Proper cube action: Redouble, take Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Player Readers owns 2-cube 0.698 0.004 0.000 - 0.302 0.017 0.000 +0.381 +0.548 Standard error 0.001 0.000 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.001 0.002 Player Stick owns 4-cube 0.700 0.003 0.000 - 0.300 0.017 0.000 +0.788 +0.667 Standard error 0.001 0.000 0.000 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.002 0.003 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1061797099 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
The score (after 1 game) is: Stick 0, Readers 4 (match to 15 points)
Move number 12: Readers to play 31
Stick 147
Readers 147 Position ID: 2LYNACrYZuQFIA Match ID: cInlAQAAIAAA
• Readers moves 14/11 13/12
# Ply Move Equity • 1 R 14/11 13/12 -0.049
0.512 0.150 0.008 - 0.488 0.161 0.008 +0.002 -0.049 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.002 0.001 0.005 0.012 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1061701256 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] 2 R 13/10 11/10 -0.075 ( -0.026)
0.505 0.144 0.006 - 0.495 0.157 0.008 -0.014 -0.075 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.002 0.001 0.005 0.012 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1061701256 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
The score (after 1 game) is: Stick 0, Readers 4 (match to 15 points)
Move number 16: Stick doubles to 2
Stick 138
Readers 151 Position ID: 2GaZATDYtg0BKA Match ID: MBngAQAAIAAA
• Readers accepts. OTB I bet you'd get a fair amount of people to drop this. [in fact OTB I probably cube a roll sooner, even though the prime v. prime struggle wasn't enough in my favor to do so, I think I'd draw a fair amount of passes]
Cube decision Rollout cubeless equity +0.459 (Money: +0.442) Cubeful equities: 1. Double, take +0.741 2. Double, pass +1.000 +0.259 3. No double +0.676 -0.065 Proper cube action: Double, take Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Centered 1-cube 0.649 0.220 0.018 - 0.351 0.089 0.004 +0.459 +0.676 Standard error 0.003 0.003 0.001 - 0.003 0.002 0.000 0.007 0.019 Player Readers owns 2-cube 0.647 0.219 0.018 - 0.353 0.087 0.006 +0.934 +0.741 Standard error 0.003 0.003 0.001 - 0.003 0.002 0.001 0.018 0.027 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 702 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1061701256 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
The score (after 1 game) is: Stick 0, Readers 4 (match to 15 points)
Move number 34: Readers to play 45
Stick 160
Readers 139 Position ID: uG0DAFpstwECRg Match ID: UQn2AQAAIAAA
• Readers cannot move. Neil explained it far better than I could but again, in practice how many of your opponent's are going to look as deeply as Neil did? Worth giving it a whirl if your opponent isn't a strong player.
Alert: double decision marked doubtful
Cube decision Rollout cubeless equity +0.695 (Money: +0.747) Cubeful equities: 1. No double +0.778 2. Double, pass +1.000 +0.222 3. Double, take +0.702 -0.075 Proper cube action: No redouble, take (25.2%) Rollout details
Win W g W bg Lose L g L bg Cubeless Cubeful Player Readers owns 2-cube 0.708 0.359 0.051 - 0.292 0.070 0.008 +0.695 +0.778 Standard error 0.005 0.005 0.005 - 0.005 0.003 0.004 0.014 0.024 Player Stick owns 4-cube 0.706 0.369 0.094 - 0.294 0.073 0.012 +1.168 +0.702 Standard error 0.005 0.006 0.008 - 0.005 0.003 0.004 0.027 0.039 Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. 286 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1061797099 and quasi-random dice Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16 Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
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