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unusual match

Posted By: Timothy Chow
Date: Thursday, 14 July 2011, at 1:01 a.m.

In Response To: unusual match (Henrik Bukkjaer)

There's no way to be absolutely sure how much the bots could be improved. It could be that we (including the bots) are all such donkeys that our results playing against each other are meaningless.

If bot evaluations are grossly at variance with the outcome of a rollout, then what that means is that variance "reduction" won't actually reduce variance; it will increase the variance, and you'd get faster convergence by eliminating the variance reduction. But luck is an unbiased random variable so in the very long run everything will still average out the same way with or without variance reduction.

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  christian munk-christensen -- Sunday, 10 July 2011, at 7:11 p.m.
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    Bill Riles -- Sunday, 10 July 2011, at 7:13 p.m.
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    BenF -- Sunday, 10 July 2011, at 7:36 p.m.
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    Michael Petch -- Sunday, 10 July 2011, at 9:37 p.m.
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      christian munk-christensen -- Sunday, 10 July 2011, at 10:04 p.m.
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        Michael Petch -- Sunday, 10 July 2011, at 10:12 p.m.
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          Michael Petch -- Sunday, 10 July 2011, at 10:13 p.m.
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            christian munk-christensen -- Monday, 11 July 2011, at 7:00 a.m.
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              Timothy Chow -- Monday, 11 July 2011, at 4:43 p.m.
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                Henrik Bukkjaer -- Monday, 11 July 2011, at 10:35 p.m.
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                  Christian Plenz -- Tuesday, 12 July 2011, at 1:02 a.m.
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                    Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 12 July 2011, at 4:25 p.m.
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                      christian munk-christensen -- Tuesday, 12 July 2011, at 7:55 p.m.
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                        Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 13 July 2011, at 1:57 p.m.
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                          christian munk-christensen -- Thursday, 14 July 2011, at 8:23 p.m.
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                        Henrik Bukkjaer -- Thursday, 14 July 2011, at 12:46 a.m.
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                          Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 14 July 2011, at 1:01 a.m.
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                            Henrik Bukkjaer -- Thursday, 14 July 2011, at 12:38 p.m.
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                              Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 14 July 2011, at 3:01 p.m.
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                                Henrik Bukkjaer -- Thursday, 14 July 2011, at 10:07 p.m.
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    Backgame -- Sunday, 10 July 2011, at 11:55 p.m.
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    Turz -- Tuesday, 12 July 2011, at 11:56 a.m.
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      Henrik Bukkjaer -- Tuesday, 12 July 2011, at 9:54 p.m.
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        Turz -- Wednesday, 13 July 2011, at 11:58 a.m.