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Simple 53 - more rollouts

Posted By: Daniel Murphy
Date: Wednesday, 3 August 2011, at 3:41 a.m.

In Response To: Simple 53 (Dmitriy Obukhov)

So the autopilot play wasn't right there. Perhaps that was because in Dmitriy's position, the opponent had no offensive position at all? That was my question. Below are some positions which I changed to a money game with the opponent White holding the cube, and gave White a progressively more potent position. I was surprised.

Some of the rollouts are not long enough, sorry, but should still be instructive.

The score (after 0 games) is: White 0, Blue 0

Move number 5: Blue to play 53

White	161
Blue	102
Position ID: 4OfgAVDabgMxAA Match ID: QYkOAAAAAAAA

• Blue moves 16/13 7/2

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	16/13 7/2	+1.406
			0.898 0.647 0.013 - 0.102 0.006 0.000 +1.449 +1.406 0.001 0.002 0.001 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.004
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1297 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924332029 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	13/10 7/2	+1.395 ( -0.011)
			0.895 0.647 0.013 - 0.105 0.007 0.000 +1.442 +1.395 0.001 0.002 0.001 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.004
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1297 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924332029 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	R	13/8 5/2	+1.383 ( -0.023)
			0.896 0.631 0.013 - 0.104 0.006 0.000 +1.429 +1.383 0.001 0.002 0.001 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.003 0.004
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1297 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924332029 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	4	R	7/4 7/2	+1.378 ( -0.028)
			0.890 0.641 0.014 - 0.110 0.008 0.000 +1.427 +1.378 0.001 0.002 0.001 - 0.001 0.000 0.000 0.003 0.004
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1296 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924332029 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	5	R	16/11 5/2	+1.377 ( -0.029)
			0.896 0.624 0.014 - 0.104 0.005 0.000 +1.425 +1.377 0.001 0.002 0.001 - 0.001 0.000 0.000 0.003 0.004
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1297 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924332029 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	6	R	7/2 5/2	+1.307 ( -0.098)
			0.868 0.631 0.013 - 0.132 0.012 0.001 +1.367 +1.307 0.004 0.005 0.002 - 0.004 0.001 0.000 0.009 0.011
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			197 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924332029 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

The score (after 0 games) is: White 0, Blue 0

Move number 6: Blue to play 53

White	153
Blue	102
Position ID: hufgAVDabgMxAA Match ID: QYkOAAAAAAAA

• Blue moves 16/11 5/2

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	16/13 7/2	+1.379
			0.897 0.625 0.010 - 0.103 0.008 0.000 +1.420 +1.379 0.002 0.003 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.005 0.006
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			495 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	13/10 7/2	+1.372 ( -0.007)
			0.896 0.622 0.011 - 0.104 0.010 0.001 +1.415 +1.372 0.002 0.003 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.005 0.006
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			495 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	R	13/8 5/2	+1.365 ( -0.014)
			0.900 0.605 0.010 - 0.100 0.006 0.000 +1.407 +1.365 0.002 0.003 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.005 0.007
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			495 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
•	4	R	16/11 5/2	+1.348 ( -0.030)
			0.899 0.591 0.010 - 0.101 0.005 0.000 +1.392 +1.348 0.002 0.003 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.005 0.006
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			495 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	5	R	7/4 7/2	+1.342 ( -0.036)
			0.886 0.618 0.012 - 0.114 0.011 0.001 +1.391 +1.342 0.002 0.003 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.005 0.007
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			495 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

The score (after 0 games) is: White 0, Blue 0

Move number 6: Blue to play 53

White	155
Blue	102
Position ID: jOfgAVDabgMxAA Match ID: QYkOAAAAAAAA

• Blue moves 16/11 5/2

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	16/13 7/2	+1.342
			0.885 0.622 0.012 - 0.115 0.011 0.000 +1.393 +1.342 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.004 0.005
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			779 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
•	2	R	16/11 5/2	+1.332 ( -0.009)
			0.892 0.591 0.011 - 0.108 0.008 0.001 +1.378 +1.332 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.004 0.005
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			779 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	R	13/8 5/2	+1.330 ( -0.012)
			0.886 0.603 0.011 - 0.114 0.009 0.001 +1.377 +1.330 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.004 0.006
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			778 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	4	R	13/10 7/2	+1.323 ( -0.019)
			0.878 0.620 0.010 - 0.122 0.012 0.001 +1.374 +1.323 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.004 0.006
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			776 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

The score (after 0 games) is: White 0, Blue 0

Move number 6: Blue to play 53

White	157
Blue	102
Position ID: mOfgAVDabgMxAA Match ID: QYkOAAAAAAAA

• Blue moves 16/11 5/2

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	16/13 7/2	+1.320
			0.876 0.623 0.011 - 0.124 0.012 0.001 +1.373 +1.320 0.001 0.002 0.001 - 0.001 0.001 0.000 0.004 0.005
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1066 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	13/10 7/2	+1.303 ( -0.017)
			0.870 0.620 0.012 - 0.130 0.012 0.001 +1.359 +1.303 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.004 0.005
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1066 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	R	13/8 5/2	+1.301 ( -0.019)
			0.876 0.601 0.011 - 0.124 0.010 0.001 +1.355 +1.301 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.004 0.005
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1067 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
•	4	R	16/11 5/2	+1.287 ( -0.033)
			0.875 0.591 0.012 - 0.125 0.011 0.001 +1.342 +1.287 0.002 0.002 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.004 0.005
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1067 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	5	2	7/4 7/2	+1.287 ( -0.032)
			0.861 0.615 0.017 - 0.139 0.018 0.000

The score (after 0 games) is: White 0, Blue 0

Move number 6: Blue to play 53

White	159
Blue	102
Position ID: sOfgAVDabgMxAA Match ID: QYkOAAAAAAAA

• Blue moves 16/11 5/2

Alert: doubtful move ( -0.043)

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	16/13 7/2	+1.295
			0.866 0.627 0.013 - 0.134 0.014 0.001 +1.357 +1.295 0.003 0.005 0.002 - 0.003 0.001 0.000 0.009 0.012
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			246 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	13/10 7/2	+1.271 ( -0.023)
			0.857 0.625 0.015 - 0.143 0.013 0.000 +1.340 +1.271 0.004 0.005 0.002 - 0.004 0.001 0.000 0.010 0.014
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			229 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	R	13/8 5/2	+1.268 ( -0.027)
			0.863 0.603 0.012 - 0.137 0.010 0.000 +1.330 +1.268 0.004 0.005 0.002 - 0.004 0.001 0.000 0.010 0.013
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			245 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
•	4	R	16/11 5/2	+1.252 ( -0.043)
			0.862 0.595 0.015 - 0.138 0.013 0.001 +1.320 +1.252 0.005 0.005 0.002 - 0.005 0.002 0.000 0.011 0.015
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			245 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

The score (after 0 games) is: White 0, Blue 0

Move number 6: Blue to play 53

White	157
Blue	102
Position ID: sLfgAVDabgMxAA Match ID: QYkOAAAAAAAA

• Blue moves 16/11 5/2

Alert: doubtful move ( -0.046)

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	16/13 7/2	+1.313
			0.870 0.630 0.013 - 0.130 0.013 0.001 +1.369 +1.313 0.004 0.006 0.002 - 0.004 0.002 0.000 0.012 0.015
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			161 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	13/8 5/2	+1.284 ( -0.029)
			0.860 0.618 0.014 - 0.140 0.009 0.000 +1.344 +1.284 0.004 0.006 0.002 - 0.004 0.002 0.000 0.010 0.012
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			160 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
•	3	R	16/11 5/2	+1.267 ( -0.046)
			0.864 0.598 0.015 - 0.136 0.009 0.000 +1.330 +1.267 0.005 0.007 0.003 - 0.005 0.001 0.000 0.012 0.016
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			160 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

The score (after 0 games) is: White 0, Blue 0

Move number 6: Blue to play 53

White	159
Blue	102
Position ID: sNvgAVDabgMxAA Match ID: QYkOAAAAAAAA

• Blue moves 16/11 5/2

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	16/13 7/2	+1.212
			0.837 0.621 0.011 - 0.163 0.018 0.001 +1.288 +1.212 0.002 0.003 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.005 0.007
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			698 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
•	2	R	16/11 5/2	+1.203 ( -0.010)
			0.845 0.583 0.014 - 0.155 0.012 0.001 +1.275 +1.203 0.002 0.003 0.001 - 0.002 0.001 0.000 0.005 0.007
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			698 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	R	13/8 5/2	+1.190 ( -0.022)
			0.836 0.600 0.012 - 0.164 0.017 0.001 +1.267 +1.190 0.003 0.003 0.001 - 0.003 0.001 0.000 0.006 0.009
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			698 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 924371857 and quasi-random dice
			Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Messages In This Thread

• Simple 53
  Dmitriy Obukhov -- Saturday, 30 July 2011, at 6:35 a.m.
  • Simple 53
    Sebastiaan Kuijs -- Saturday, 30 July 2011, at 7:59 a.m.
  • Simple 53
    Udo Moerschbach -- Saturday, 30 July 2011, at 9:45 a.m.
  • Simple 53
    Mick Dyett -- Saturday, 30 July 2011, at 3:59 p.m.
  • Simple 53
    christian munk-christensen -- Saturday, 30 July 2011, at 4:50 p.m.
  • Difficult, complicated 53
    Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 30 July 2011, at 6:25 p.m.
  • Simple 53
    BenF -- Saturday, 30 July 2011, at 7:10 p.m.
  • Simple 53
    Stick -- Saturday, 30 July 2011, at 8:56 p.m.
  • Simple 53
    Dmitriy Obukhov -- Sunday, 31 July 2011, at 9:41 p.m.
    • Simple 53 - more rollouts
      Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 3 August 2011, at 3:41 a.m.