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the 20/23 backgame

Posted By: Timothy Chow
Date: Monday, 8 August 2011, at 2:43 a.m.

In Response To: My backgame errors (Stick)

Stick wrote:

Running then from the 21pt should be quickly dismissed as it leaves you with a game you never really want unless you're desperate, the 20/23 backgame.

Holding all three back points is also my instinct here, but I'm surprised at your comment about the 20/23 backgame. In Trice's book he has a sequence of backgame cube reference positions and the 20/23 backgame fares quite well, better than any other backgame that includes an advanced anchor. Perhaps the problem is that it's difficult in practice to attain the ideal reference position that Trice shows?

I think Trice's argument is that the 20/23 backgame allows you to play a two-way game. If you don't generate a shot then you can run off the high anchor and fall back on a 23pt-game. A 21/23 backgame might generate more shots because the anchors are closer together, but the 21pt is more easily primed than the 20pt. Similarly a 20/22 backgame has the disadvantage that a 22pt-game is considerably worse than a 23pt-game.

Messages In This Thread

• My backgame errors
  mtuhtan -- Sunday, 7 August 2011, at 11:07 a.m.
  • My backgame errors
    Casper van der Tak -- Sunday, 7 August 2011, at 12:27 p.m.
  • My backgame errors
    Daniel Murphy -- Sunday, 7 August 2011, at 3:51 p.m.
    • My backgame errors
      Ben E. -- Sunday, 7 August 2011, at 6:35 p.m.
    • My backgame errors
      Casper van der Tak -- Sunday, 7 August 2011, at 7:27 p.m.
  • My backgame errors
    Stick -- Sunday, 7 August 2011, at 5:42 p.m.
    • My backgame errors
      mtuhtan -- Sunday, 7 August 2011, at 5:49 p.m.
      • My backgame errors
        Stick -- Sunday, 7 August 2011, at 6:21 p.m.
        • the 20/23 backgame
          Timothy Chow -- Monday, 8 August 2011, at 2:43 a.m.
          • the 20/23 backgame
            Casper van der Tak -- Monday, 8 August 2011, at 6:26 a.m.
        • XGR++
          Timothy Chow -- Monday, 8 August 2011, at 9:52 p.m.
          • XGR++
            Stick -- Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 12:39 a.m.
            • XGR++
              Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 7:18 a.m.
            • XGR++
              Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 10 August 2011, at 1:21 a.m.
    • My backgame errors
      Timothy Chow -- Sunday, 7 August 2011, at 5:52 p.m.
      • My backgame errors
        Stick -- Sunday, 7 August 2011, at 6:01 p.m.
        • Neil or Falafel, what do you think and why? ;) *NM*
          mtuhtan -- Sunday, 7 August 2011, at 6:12 p.m.
          • Neil or Falafel, what do you think and why? ;)
            neilkaz -- Sunday, 7 August 2011, at 11:45 p.m.
            • Neil or Falafel, what do you think and why? ;)
              mtuhtan -- Monday, 8 August 2011, at 5:36 a.m.
              • Neil or Falafel, what do you think and why? ;)
                falafel -- Wednesday, 10 August 2011, at 2:18 a.m.
  • My backgame errors
    christian munk-christensen -- Sunday, 7 August 2011, at 7:39 p.m.
  • Rollout
    mtuhtan -- Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 11:35 a.m.