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21$-55P-54 and 21$-53P-54

Posted By: Daniel Murphy
Date: Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 6:36 a.m.

In Response To: Othello quizzes revisited (long and beginner-ish) (Stick)

Stick you are too fast today. Bingo, 21$-55P-54 is not 21$-53P-54. Perhaps not appreciating the difference explains Tim's observation that it was often got wrong in the 2005 quiz? After 55P White is 12 pips more advanced and his 8 point is not stripped. Both factors make it less palatable to come under the gun, especially with a splot.

There's a money game rollout of 21$-55P-54 unfortunately not including 24/20 13/8 at

http://www.bgonline.org/forums/webbbs_config.pl?noframes;read=967

TY Stick v.2006. Do you have a rollout for 21$-53P-54? I can't find one. Here's Gnubg 4-ply evaluation:

White	159
Blue	164
Position ID: jGfwATDQc+QBMA Match ID: cIkSAAAAAAAA

Alert: unlucky roll! ( -0.373)

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	4	24/20 13/8	-0.156620
			0.477261 0.137142 0.007707 - 0.522739 0.193784 0.012628
•	2	4	13/9 13/8	-0.188331 ( -0.031711)
			0.466626 0.143158 0.006585 - 0.533374 0.195463 0.019378
	3	4	24/20 11/6	-0.212678 ( -0.056057)
			0.460518 0.127521 0.007024 - 0.539482 0.188180 0.010175
	4	4	13/9 11/6	-0.214813 ( -0.058192)
			0.455421 0.137734 0.006150 - 0.544579 0.188709 0.015327

And at the Othello quiz score:

White	159
Blue	164
Position ID: jGfwATDQc+QBMA Match ID: cImyABAAEAAE

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	4	24/20 13/8	-0.279479
			0.480774 0.140519 0.008639 - 0.519226 0.199508 0.013083
	2	4	13/9 13/8	-0.348992 ( -0.069513)
			0.466095 0.143169 0.006628 - 0.533905 0.194370 0.019025
	3	4	24/20 11/6	-0.361477 ( -0.081998)
			0.461328 0.128604 0.007168 - 0.538672 0.191238 0.010363
	4	4	24/15	-0.381836 ( -0.102357)
			0.469000 0.118996 0.005590 - 0.531000 0.215876 0.014177

More about splotting:

http://www.bgonline.org/forums/webbbs_config.pl?noframes;read=90712

http://www.bgonline.org/forums/webbbs_config.pl?noframes;read=10553

Messages In This Thread

• Othello quizzes revisited
  Timothy Chow -- Monday, 8 August 2011, at 10:33 p.m.
  • Othello quizzes revisited
    Stick -- Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 12:23 a.m.
    • Othello quizzes revisited
      Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 7:44 a.m.
    • Othello quizzes revisited
      Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 4:38 p.m.
      • Othello quizzes revisited
        Stick -- Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 4:56 p.m.
  • Othello quizzes revisited
    othello -- Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 12:42 a.m.
    • Othello quizzes revisited
      Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 4:49 p.m.
  • Othello quizzes revisited (long and beginner-ish)
    Kevin Whyte -- Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 4:00 a.m.
    • Othello quizzes revisited (long and beginner-ish)
      Stick -- Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 5:59 a.m.
      • 21$-55P-54 and 21$-53P-54
        Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 6:36 a.m.
        • 21$-53P-54 Rollout
          Stick -- Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 9:30 a.m.
    • Othello quizzes revisited (long and beginner-ish)
      Casper van der Tak -- Tuesday, 9 August 2011, at 7:38 a.m.
    • Playing against 53P or 55P
      Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 10 August 2011, at 4:07 a.m.
      • Playing against 53P or 55P
        Kevin Whyte -- Wednesday, 10 August 2011, at 5:00 a.m.
        • Playing against 53P or 55P
          Stick -- Wednesday, 10 August 2011, at 5:09 a.m.
          • Playing against 53P or 55P
            Kevin Whyte -- Wednesday, 10 August 2011, at 5:58 a.m.
        • Playing against 53P or 55P
          Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 10 August 2011, at 5:53 a.m.
          • Playing against 53P or 55P
            Kevin Whyte -- Wednesday, 10 August 2011, at 6:05 a.m.
            • Playing against 53P or 55P
              Nack Ballard -- Thursday, 11 August 2011, at 5:39 p.m.
        • Ogeima shimari (OT)
          Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 10 August 2011, at 6:57 a.m.
          • Ogeima shimari (OT)
            Kevin Whyte -- Wednesday, 10 August 2011, at 3:12 p.m.
        • Another variant
          Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 10 August 2011, at 1:39 p.m.
          • Another variant
            Kevin Whyte -- Wednesday, 10 August 2011, at 3:17 p.m.
            • Another variant
              Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 11 August 2011, at 11:59 p.m.
              • +1 *NM*
                Casper van der Tak -- Friday, 12 August 2011, at 6:59 a.m.
        • 42P-55P-64 video
          Golden -- Thursday, 11 August 2011, at 12:38 a.m.
          • 42P-55P-64 video
            Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 11 August 2011, at 7:05 a.m.
  • Othello quizzes revisited
    leobueno -- Wednesday, 10 August 2011, at 6:58 p.m.
  • Othello quizzes revisited *RollOut* Position 1, 2000
    leobueno -- Saturday, 13 August 2011, at 12:40 a.m.
  • Othello quizzes revisited *Rollout* Position 9, 2000
    leobueno -- Sunday, 14 August 2011, at 9:53 p.m.