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Let the next thread on the subject begin

Posted By: mamabear
Date: Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 5:36 p.m.

In Response To: Let the next thread on the subject begin (Mike Main)

I cannot see the point of changing the current procedure at all, except to empower a director to impose a lift-move rule upon a player who is guilty of excessive shuffling. This imposition could be for just that match, for the rest of that event, or for the entire tournament depending on the particulars. Prominent among the aforementioned particulars, if I were director, would be whether the shuffled checkers usually end up back where they belong, and whether in the end a legal play is made.

The director would be given plenty of leeway on this, so that he or she could use their judgment as to whether the problem has to do with prestidigitation, or the much more common problem, especially at the lower levels, of mere adiposidigitation. In the latter case, a friendly warning may solve the problem without hard feelings.

I would add here that one reason this rather stale chestnut has popped (again!) at this time, is that a perceived need for a lift-move rule may be in part an unintended consequence of the adoption of "legal moves". If your opponent has set up five or six different plays, you may have a hard time figuring out what happened at the end of the day (so to speak--in unclocked games, this practice is also a time-related issue.) This is not an argument for or against legal moves--just a note that we may be seeing a butterfly effect here.

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  Mike Main -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 10:32 a.m.
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    Stick -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 10:41 a.m.
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      Gregg Cattanach -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 11:59 a.m.
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        Michael Crane -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 12:13 p.m.
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          Gregg Cattanach -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 12:33 p.m.
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            Chiva Tafazzoli -- Friday, 2 September 2011, at 7:03 p.m.
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          Steve Mellen -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 2:16 p.m.
  • Bravo Mike! +1 *NM*
    mtuhtan -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 11:07 a.m.
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    christian munk-christensen -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 11:32 a.m.
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      neilkaz -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 3:51 p.m.
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        Tom Keith -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 4:43 p.m.
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          mamabear -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 5:22 p.m.
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    Bob Koca -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 1:35 p.m.
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      mamabear -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 5:18 p.m.
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        Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 5:37 p.m.
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      Mike Main -- Friday, 2 September 2011, at 11:44 p.m.
  • Who is Hell is Mike Main?
    Paul Weaver -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 3:57 p.m.
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    mamabear -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 5:36 p.m.
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      Tom Keith -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 5:44 p.m.
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    Chuck Bower -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 5:42 p.m.
  • Some thought about the structure and goal of a given law and his rules.
    higonefive -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 7:56 p.m.
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    Bill Riles -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 8:16 p.m.
    • Good to see you back Bill!
      Casper van der Tak -- Thursday, 1 September 2011, at 10:24 p.m.
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    Barry Silliman -- Friday, 2 September 2011, at 1:37 a.m.
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    Daniel Murphy -- Friday, 2 September 2011, at 2:15 a.m.
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    Chiva Tafazzoli -- Friday, 2 September 2011, at 2:50 p.m.