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THERE IS NO LUCK IN BACKGAMMON!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Jakob Garal In Response To: THERE IS NO LUCK IN BACKGAMMON!!!!!!!! (GeorgeMJ23)
Date: Sunday, 11 September 2011, at 11:33 p.m.
Every real game should have one of two or both necessary features: unfull information during the game (like in bridge, scat, preferance etc.) or random characteristic of one important game's elements (like dice in backgammon) or both (like in poker). Without such basic features it will be difficult define the real game. So called games with full information (chess, checkers, reversi and go) can not be announced like real games, because it is obviousely today that nobody can win against computer programm, because bot has no problem to find the best move in any position you propose. In connection with backgammon we have another decision - computer programm can not win against the man 100%, though somebody supposes it should be like this. Luck (for backgammon is some specific sequence of rolls) is a part of game and it is impossible to exclude it from the one game. It is possible to make some specific moneygame play where you play on TWO boards with duplicated rolls: you roll on the board Nr.1, move your checkers and after that your opponent moves the checkers with the same dice combination on the board Nr.2 and so on. In this case you can make some kind of estimation and find how good you can take decision with such sequience of rolls. And you can say that both sides are in the equal conditions according to dice combinations during the entire game. Should somebody has found himself in good position at board Nr.1 after some sequence of rolls, then his opponent should to be in the same on the board Nr.2, if he played like first one. If not - not! But in one game and on one board played - surely the best sequence of rolls (in case we talk about good players) give more chance for one side than for another. According to bots: It was unusual experiment in Monaco last 2 years. One player has played against SNOWIE, GNU and a lot of BG-GIANTS all together. They all were against this one guy from Ukraine. They have bet that they played as minimum 100 moneygames to prove him that computer programme is more better play than a man. They played with 1000€ per point and the guy has received some kind of bonus against such circumstances (SNOWIE, GNU and a couple of best world BG-players). And now the question: how much you suppose was this bonus? And who won this bet after 300 moneygames finished? Another interesting question: who will be ready play with such conditions?
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