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Who is the best? Human or Bot

Posted By: Christian Sorensen
Date: Thursday, 19 January 2012, at 4:56 p.m.

In Response To: Horizon effect? (Christian Sorensen)

Well i think it's a big pass there are to many gammons, but the funny thing in this position is that the gap between the 1 and 4 point creats the big volatility between the analyses, but my real question was: Doesn't this affect the beginnig of the game in backgammon? Because bots usually get into holding games pretty quickly, and if they don't understand difficult positions or complex backgames. The NN will not be happy, equity wise to play a backgame, so some of the more complex moves will be downgraded in equity in the beginning of the game. So they will end up fast in a holding game were the math is simpler of the bot.

Because i have played lots of matches with bots (like 2,500), and i see it time and time over. I was always trying to copy XG's moves but i didn't win very much actually until i started playing more complex and now i have a better percentage on winning matches. So when i see a position like before, were XG get a +-0.300 difference in equity on the different analyse levels. I start thinking about this so called 'horizon effect' and how much it alters the beginning of the game.

Are bots making the game to simple? so they won't have to give up equity in the later stages of the match.

Many people always says that XG is the best player in the world, i'm kind of tired to hear that. i would 100% believe if it would be a pro against the bot. But if you put a average player against a bot, i think a World class pro (a Giant) would have more winning chance. But isn't backgammon also about the skill to outplay someone and let him make more errors? Sometimes you bluff a cube when it's a ND/T, because you know the opponent is a weak player that passes very early or gets scared of backgames. I bet XG won't do that ;) because it can't sense any fear. Or you double a TG, because they are steamers.

I really think that human pro's are better in the longer run than bots.

What do you think? Is the bot better in any case or are some Giants better? (and if it's a Giant, who do you think?)

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