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JellyFish 3.0 Says...

Posted By: mamabear
Date: Friday, 21 September 2007, at 3:09 a.m.

In Response To: Can the bot possibly be right? (Frankie D)

JellyFish certainly isn't the last word on anything in BG, but it's good to consult here because a) it doesn't play or defend backgames or roll primes anywhere near as badly as people seem to think, and b) what it can do, it does fast! Here is a summary of the results of nominal 2-ply ("Level 6" in Fishspeak) full cubeless rollouts, 1440 trials each which variance reduce to over 15000 trials:

6/2*/1* +.711 @ .011 SD

13/9, 8/7 +.667@ .011 SD (-.044)

11/7, 8/7 +.626 @ .012 SD (-.085)

On its nominal 3-ply ("Level 7") evaluation, JellyFish put the double hit in 4th place by only .028, so it never really hated it, it just wouldn't do it. Same as most of us would feel if we ran into this position OTB, maybe?

Messages In This Thread

• Can the bot possibly be right?
  Frankie D -- Wednesday, 19 September 2007, at 6:12 p.m.
  • I did not mean to post the rollout
    Frankie D -- Wednesday, 19 September 2007, at 6:15 p.m.
    • I did not mean to post the rollout
      Keene -- Wednesday, 19 September 2007, at 6:21 p.m.
      • Snowie better at backgames?
        Frankie D -- Wednesday, 19 September 2007, at 6:25 p.m.
        • Snowie better at backgames?
          neilkaz -- Wednesday, 19 September 2007, at 7:05 p.m.
          • Snowie better at backgames?
            Frank Berger -- Wednesday, 19 September 2007, at 9:58 p.m.
  • Can the bot possibly be right?
    Matt Reklaitis -- Wednesday, 19 September 2007, at 7:38 p.m.
  • LOL
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 19 September 2007, at 10:46 p.m.
    • Don't laugh
      neilkaz -- Thursday, 20 September 2007, at 4:17 a.m.
      • Don't laugh
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 20 September 2007, at 6:56 a.m.
        • Don't laugh
          neilkaz -- Thursday, 20 September 2007, at 11:10 p.m.
          • Don't laugh
            Hardy Hübener -- Sunday, 23 September 2007, at 10:13 p.m.
  • Can the bot possibly be right?
    Havard Raddum -- Thursday, 20 September 2007, at 3:07 a.m.
    • Can the bot possibly be right?
      Stick -- Thursday, 20 September 2007, at 3:52 a.m.
      • Can the bot possibly be right?
        Havard Raddum -- Friday, 21 September 2007, at 2:43 a.m.
    • Can the bot possibly be right?
      Ian Shaw -- Friday, 21 September 2007, at 11:55 a.m.
  • Can the bot possibly be right?
    Stick -- Thursday, 20 September 2007, at 5:14 a.m.
  • Can the bot possibly be right?
    happyjuggler0 -- Friday, 21 September 2007, at 2:30 a.m.
  • JellyFish 3.0 Says...
    mamabear -- Friday, 21 September 2007, at 3:09 a.m.
  • how else do you ---
    garyo -- Friday, 21 September 2007, at 2:37 p.m.
  • Who would play 6/2*/1*?
    Stanley E. Richards -- Friday, 21 September 2007, at 5:08 p.m.
    • Who would play 6/2*/1*?
      lucky player -- Friday, 21 September 2007, at 6:52 p.m.
      • Who would play 6/2*/1*?
        Stanley E. Richards -- Sunday, 23 September 2007, at 2:08 a.m.
    • Who would play 6/2*/1*?
      Keene -- Friday, 21 September 2007, at 7:22 p.m.
    • Who would play 6/2*/1*?
      Chuck Bower -- Friday, 21 September 2007, at 8:18 p.m.