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Plz help a fellow out why take ? - RO

Posted By: Daniel Murphy
Date: Saturday, 11 February 2012, at 1:28 a.m.

In Response To: Plz help a fellow out why take ? (Sebastiaan Kuijs)

Normal game. Blue on roll.

White99

1X2O2X7X '3X ' ' ' '1O '

2O2X2O '2O3O3O ' ' ' ' '
Blue117
Position ID: 2Z8DABgzuwMCGA Match ID: UQkAAAAAAAAA

Here's the rollout. Note the "cubeless" game results.

Cube decision
Rollout cubeless equity +0.5535
Cubeful equities:
1.Double, take +0.9520
2.Double, pass +1.0000 +0.0480
3.No double +0.8409 -0.1110
Proper cube action:Redouble, take
Rollout details
WinW gW bg LoseL gL bgCubelessCubeful
Player Blue owns 2-cube0.70680.19300.0067-0.29320.05820.0016 +0.5535 +0.8409
Standard error0.00060.00120.0002-0.00060.00060.0001 0.0019 0.0042
Player White owns 4-cube0.71550.19770.0076-0.28450.06150.0019 +1.1456 +0.9520
Standard error0.00090.00190.0003-0.00090.00070.0001 0.0054 0.0066
Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
2592 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 907323591 and quasi-random dice
Play: supremo 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 16 more moves within equity 0.32
Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

And here are some cubeful statistics, using the Gnubg "show statistics" feature.

Holding a 4-cube, White 32.48% of all games, instead of 28.45%. That's a gain of 4.03%. And White saves some gammons, too, losing 19.09% gammons/backgammons, instead of 19.77%.

White manages to redouble to 8 more than one-third of the time -- 34.45% of all games. 58% of his redoubles get a pass. And that means 20% of all games end in redouble/pass. At the point of redouble/pass, White's cubeless GWC might be anywhere from 75% to 100%. Since almost all of the games White wins with a double/pass are 8-cubes, if we set White's average GWC at the point of double/pass to 80%, that would account for the 4% difference in games won cubeful versus cubeless. Without the cube, White would have lost 20% of those games, that is, instead of winning 20% of all games with the cube, he would have only won 80% of the 20%, or 16%.

Winning games with redouble to 8/pass is one of two reasons that White's cubeful equity is higher than his cubeless equity. The other reason is that White wins a majority of the games in which Blue takes the 8-cube.

If we ignore the final cube value, the cubeful game breakdown for White is

WinWin G+BGWin BGLoseLose G+BGLose BG
32.482.810.1567.5219.090.69

which attains an equity of -0.5186, or -1.0372 after the initial double/take. In other words, being able to double Blue out increases White's equity from an estimate -1.1456 cubeless to -1.0372 cubeful. But that's still short of take. White makes up the difference with his performance in the games in which he redoubles the stakes once again by giving an 8-cube that is taken. The cube reaches at least 8 about 14.5% of the time, and White wins 71.5% of those, which is about 10.4% of all games, compared to the 4.1% of all games that White loses whenever the cube reaches 8 or higher. And about 11% of White's 8-cube wins are gammons, so that helps too.

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