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Opinions and needles

Posted By: Daniel Murphy
Date: Sunday, 14 October 2007, at 5:56 p.m.

In Response To: Opinions and needles (Chuck Bower)

Re blinds and antes, including heads-up, see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betting_%28poker%29#Forced_bets

For NBC National Heads-up Poker Championship 2007 rules, see

http://www.nbcheadsup.com/rules.html

There were no antes, only blinds.

Does the 82% have anything to do with pairs vs. pairs? (Probably just a non-related coincidence.)

No.

I'd guess that "optimal play" with stack = 1000 and ante = constant 1 (and assume no blind) would be: wait for AA to call. Maybe KK also.

AA versus a random hand wins 84.93%, ties 0.54%, loses 14.53%.

KK versus a random hand wins 82.12%, ties 0.56%, loses 17.32%.

QQ versus a random hand wins less than 80%.

So the 82%, if correct, would come from the small chance of losing the session even though you win a hand with AA, because of the antes you've lost.

See: http://www.propokertools.com/simulator/simulationEditor.jsp

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