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42P-63 data — Two Questions and a Correction

Posted By: Taper_Mike
Date: Monday, 23 April 2012, at 4:37 a.m.

In Response To: 42P-63 data — Two Questions and a Correction (Nack Ballard)

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Mike: XG 3-ply [S R7] 15k 42P-63 [S R1] '<46 Are these two XG1 rollouts independent of each other (or do they share a common seed)? Nack: I'm pretty sure they're independent. The one you list second I transcribed on 2/13/10 with a note "Stick, v1.10?" but no reference to source or file. The first was sent to me by David six months later on 8/12/10, seed #87208204, v1.20. Stick and/or David may know more. Do you have that backwards? That is, do you mean the SECOND was, “sent to me by David six months later on 8/12/10, seed #87208204, v1.20?” As you can see in David’s post at the root of this thread, it is this second rollout (42P-63 [S R1] '<46) that uses seed #87208204. There is another bit of confusion pertaining to version numbers. You report that the rollout with seed #87208204 was made with XG 1.20, and yet David’s post of that rollout (although perhaps not the rollout itself) was made with XG 1.14. As always, I apologize for worrying about this sort detail. The only reason I care is because I am carefully transcribing this data, and I am trying to avoid entering corrupt information into my database. What I have so far for 42P-63 is posted below.

42P-63 Unlimited Games

Bot	Seed	Equity	Nacbracs		Source	Link	Note
GnuBg 2-ply	1024868928	–312.4	[S R4.3]	/46	BgOnline	rollout
Snowie 4.x.x 3-ply	[Not posted]	[Not posted]	[S R4]	~27	Nack Ballard	nacbrac
XG 1.xx 3-ply	[Not posted]	[Not posted]	[S R7]	'<15	Nack Ballard	nacbrac
XG 1.14 3-ply	87208204	–319	[S R1]	'<46	David Rockwell	rollout	S (Split) beats R (Run) by more than 0.005, and less than 0.010.
XG 1.12 4-ply	[Random]	–317.3	[S R0.4]	'^46	XG Opening Book	rollout	Rollout by Neil Kazaross
XG 1.14 4-ply	[Random]	–317	[S=R]	'^46	Neil Kazaross	rollout	S (Split) beats R (Run) by less than 0.005.

42P-63 At-Score

Score	Bot	Seed	Equity	Nacbracs		Source	Link	Note
DMP	GnuBg 2-ply	822735020	–125.0	d[S R8.9]	/5	BgOnline	rollout
GS	GnuBg 2-ply	[Not posted]	[Not posted]	s[R S22]	/5	David Rockwell	nacbrac

– It is no coinicidence that the same names appear so often in the sources for this data. Once again, I tip my hat to these generous rollateers. A word about bots: In a rollout report, the bot listed is the one used to make the report. It might — or might not — be the one used to make the rollout. A good for-instance is the 4-ply rollout from Neil. In Neil’s post, the bot is identified as XG 1.14, but the same report includes the seed “[Random].” As XG used “secret” random seeds only in versions 1.12 and 1.13, we can be certain that Neil’s rollout was made using one of those releases. As it happens, the rollout in the XG Opening Book is Neil’s 4-ply rollout, so we know that the actual version was 1.12. Mike

Messages In This Thread

• 42P-63 TCTC
  David Rockwell -- Sunday, 20 June 2010, at 6:40 p.m.
  • 42P-63 TCTC..I will 4 ply RO it
    neilkaz -- Sunday, 20 June 2010, at 6:57 p.m.
    • 42P-63 4ply 46k has been done
      neilkaz -- Sunday, 20 June 2010, at 7:10 p.m.
      • 42P-63 data
        Nack Ballard -- Monday, 21 June 2010, at 12:05 a.m.
        • 42P-63 data
          neilkaz -- Monday, 21 June 2010, at 5:09 a.m.
        • 42P-63 data — Two Questions and a Correction
          Taper_Mike -- Thursday, 19 April 2012, at 3:13 a.m.
          • 42P-63 data — Two Questions and a Correction
            Nack Ballard -- Sunday, 22 April 2012, at 3:17 a.m.
            • 42P-63 data — Two Questions and a Correction
              Nack Ballard -- Sunday, 22 April 2012, at 3:24 a.m.
              • 42P-63 data — Two Questions and a Correction
                Taper_Mike -- Sunday, 22 April 2012, at 4:21 a.m.
            • 42P-63 data — Two Questions and a Correction
              Taper_Mike -- Monday, 23 April 2012, at 4:37 a.m.