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Dealing with dice that appear cocked (Long)

Posted By: Daniel Murphy
Date: Sunday, 15 July 2012, at 7:48 p.m.

In Response To: Dealing with dice that appear cocked (Long) (Colin Owen)

There was a discussion in these pages in 2009 of the same scenario Rodney Lighton presents now:

So last night at the chouette, [m]y opponent rolled a precision die onto its corner. Not an unusual occurrence. Dice are cocked... re-roll. However, in this case after 2 seconds, the die fell from its cocked position. There was movement in the room but no noticeable shaking of the table but who knows.... So, is there a grace time period for cocked dice?

Neil Kazaross responded: "When the die is on the corner like that...quite rare if ever on most boards, I say "cocked" and once my opp agrees a reroll must occur."

Gregg Cattanach commented: "If a die comes to rest and it isn't flat, it is cocked. When it stops moving (comes to rest) it when you determine if it is flat. If it stops moving and is on its corner, it is cocked. There is no 'time limit' required."

Richard Munitz added: "If both players agree that the die had discernibly stopped within the limits of their perception, then it does not matter whether in reality it had or it hadn't. It's cocked."

David Rockwell writes now that "If the die stops moving for approximately one second, I immediately say "cocked.... To clarify, I don't reach at all until I get agreement. If the die falls before I reach, then we discuss. If I've said "cocked", I maintain that the roll is invalid."

Phil Simborg adds: "I believe if a dice lands on it's corner, or is cocked in any way, it is deemed to be cocked if it comes to rest (stops moving)."

And Jeb Horton writes: "Like most, when a die lands on its corner, say "cocked?" If it tips after that, something influenced it. It was cocked."

I think David's practice is sensible. If a die is not resting flat, and does not appear to be moving, it's cocked. If Player A thinks a die is cocked -- not resting flat and not apparently moving -- he should quickly say so and Player B, if he has the same perception, should agree. At that moment of agreement, if not before, the die is cocked. I'm really not very interested in knowing how often a die which "within the limits of [both players'] perception" has "discernibly stopped" moving will discernibly start moving if we watch it long enough.

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