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Dealing with dice that appear cocked (Long)
Posted By: Daniel Murphy In Response To: Dealing with dice that appear cocked (Long) (Colin Owen)
Date: Monday, 16 July 2012, at 3:58 p.m.
If the table is solid enough, then any outside influence should be fairly obvious, like a player moving the table.
That does not seem obvious to me. I'd say, rather, that an obvious influence, like a player moving the table, might be noticed, but it doesn't follow that any outside influence will be noticed.
In the absence of this, if the die shifted then it HAD NOT come to rest
Well, that seems to be a central proposition for your view, and I don't believe it. Another proposition seems to me, at the least, no less likely: that a die that did not land flat and has apparently not moved for 1 full second has indeed come to rest, after which, if it moved, the movement was due to some undetected influence.
I maintain, from experience, that if it's going to shift it will probably do so within a second and, almost certainly, within 2-3. AND I mean, it could well be a couple of seconds before both players actually agree, and in that time the die will very probably have shifted if it is going to.
Well, if it takes more than a second for one player to notice and claim that a die doesn't seem to have moved for one second, and it takes another 2 or 3 seconds for the second player to agree that the die is cocked, it's hard for me to see how your position differs much from, say, David Rockwell's, since you concede that a die that is "going to shift" will "almost certainly" do so within 2 or 3 seconds.
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