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Some rollouts and thoughts

Posted By: Klaus Evers
Date: Monday, 13 August 2012, at 8:27 p.m.

In Response To: What did you learn from the Pay Now or Later lecture? (Klaus Evers)

Well, in the original position XG dinged me for paying now





White is Player 2

score: 2
pip: 110
7 point match
pip: 80
score: 4

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-BABCbCB----bB-----bbcbb--:1:1:1:64:4:2:0:7:10
Blue to play 64

1.4-ply7/3 7/1eq: +0,452
Player:
Opponent:
65,32% (G:4,31% B:0,02%)
34,68% (G:3,20% B:0,06%)
2.4-ply13/9 13/7eq: +0,374 (-0,078)
Player:
Opponent:
63,32% (G:3,17% B:0,04%)
36,68% (G:2,41% B:0,05%)

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.01, MET: GnuBG 11 point

but then, in the RO, it was close.





White is Player 2

score: 2
pip: 110
7 point match
pip: 80
score: 4

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-BABCbCB----bB-----bbcbb--:1:1:1:64:4:2:0:7:10
Blue to play 64

1.Rollout113/9 13/7eq: +0,368
Player:
Opponent:
63,29% (G:3,14% B:0,13%)
36,71% (G:3,00% B:0,06%)
Conf.: ± 0,003 (+0,365...+0,371) - [100,0%]
Duration: 1 minute 33 seconds
2.Rollout17/3 7/1eq: +0,351 (-0,016)
Player:
Opponent:
62,99% (G:7,79% B:0,06%)
37,01% (G:5,06% B:0,19%)
Conf.: ± 0,005 (+0,346...+0,357) - [0,0%]
Duration: 3 minutes 51 seconds
1 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves and cube decisions: 3-ply

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.01, MET: GnuBG 11 point

I expected that with fewer shots (65 roll) pay now would be clearly correct, but I was wrong:





White is Player 2

score: 2
pip: 110
7 point match
pip: 80
score: 4

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-BABCbCB----bB-----bbcbb--:1:1:1:65:4:2:0:7:10
Blue to play 65

1.Rollout17/2 7/1eq: +0,470
Player:
Opponent:
66,90% (G:7,63% B:0,09%)
33,10% (G:3,49% B:0,10%)
Conf.: ± 0,005 (+0,465...+0,475) - [100,0%]
Duration: 3 minutes 51 seconds
2.Rollout113/8 13/7eq: +0,460 (-0,010)
Player:
Opponent:
67,59% (G:2,94% B:0,09%)
32,41% (G:2,57% B:0,06%)
Conf.: ± 0,003 (+0,458...+0,463) - [0,0%]
Duration: 1 minute 18 seconds
1 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves and cube decisions: 3-ply

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.01, MET: GnuBG 11 point

So, finally, with a better timing for white and no need to break the mid next roll I expected paying now should be right, and this time I was right (both for 64 and 65):





White is Player 2

score: 2
pip: 119
7 point match
pip: 80
score: 4

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-BABCbCB----cB-----bbbbb--:1:1:1:64:4:2:0:7:10
Blue to play 64

1.Rollout113/9 13/7eq: +0,356
Player:
Opponent:
63,77% (G:3,67% B:0,01%)
36,23% (G:3,04% B:0,07%)
Conf.: ± 0,003 (+0,353...+0,360) - [100,0%]
Duration: 2 minutes 03 seconds
2.Rollout17/3 7/1eq: +0,249 (-0,107)
Player:
Opponent:
59,52% (G:6,71% B:0,22%)
40,48% (G:5,28% B:0,18%)
Conf.: ± 0,006 (+0,244...+0,255) - [0,0%]
Duration: 5 minutes 20 seconds
1 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves and cube decisions: 3-ply

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.01, MET: GnuBG 11 point





White is Player 2

score: 2
pip: 119
7 point match
pip: 80
score: 4

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-BABCbCB----cB-----bbbbb--:1:1:1:65:4:2:0:7:10
Blue to play 65

1.Rollout113/8 13/7eq: +0,453
Player:
Opponent:
68,16% (G:3,76% B:0,09%)
31,84% (G:2,61% B:0,06%)
Conf.: ± 0,003 (+0,450...+0,456) - [100,0%]
Duration: 6 minutes 28 seconds
2.Rollout17/2 7/1eq: +0,269 (-0,184)
Player:
Opponent:
59,85% (G:6,38% B:0,06%)
40,15% (G:4,68% B:0,14%)
Conf.: ± 0,006 (+0,263...+0,274) - [0,0%]
Duration: 19 minutes 32 seconds
1 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves and cube decisions: 3-ply

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.01, MET: GnuBG 11 point

Thanks for all your comments and ideas!

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