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Rollout: duration
Posted By: Stick In Response To: Rollout: duration (Philippe Michel)
Date: Monday, 20 August 2012, at 11:24 p.m.
While I'll admit that in certain positions perhaps the rollout will be longer because of the score, what you suggest to me is out of this world. The main scores I would see taking longer would be those where the game needed to be played out to its conclusion more often than its money counterpart. There is really nothing to the position and there's no way in my mind AtS stuff added 30 minutes to a 5k rollout. A simple test below.
Same seed in both positions both run while I didn't touch anything on the computer. The AtS rollout took a whopping 12 seconds longer.
White is Player 2
score: 0
pip: 125Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaverpip: 94
score: 0
Blue is Player 1XGID=-B-bBBD-C---bB--a--cbcb---:0:0:1:00:0:0:3:0:10 Blue on roll, cube action?
Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take Player Winning Chances: 74.47% (G:5.72% B:0.10%) 74.85% (G:5.70% B:0.10%) Opponent Winning Chances: 25.53% (G:2.07% B:0.05%) 25.15% (G:2.14% B:0.06%) Cubeless Equities +0.526 +1.066 Cubeful Equities No double: +0.850 (-0.069) ±0.009 (+0.841..+0.859) Double/Take: +0.919 ±0.011 (+0.908..+0.929) Double/Pass: +1.000 (+0.081) Best Cube action: Double / Take Rollout details 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 34522307
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 100.0% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 8 minutes 05 seconds eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.03
White is Player 2
score: 0
pip: 1255 point match pip: 94
score: 0
Blue is Player 1XGID=-B-bBBD-C---bB--a--cbcb---:0:0:1:00:0:0:0:5:10 Blue on roll, cube action?
Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take Player Winning Chances: 74.63% (G:5.47% B:0.11%) 75.00% (G:5.50% B:0.10%) Opponent Winning Chances: 25.37% (G:2.07% B:0.05%) 25.00% (G:2.15% B:0.07%) Cubeless Equities +0.524 +1.041 Cubeful Equities No double: +0.830 (-0.049) ±0.008 (+0.822..+0.838) Double/Take: +0.879 ±0.010 (+0.870..+0.889) Double/Pass: +1.000 (+0.121) Best Cube action: Double / Take Rollout details 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 34522307
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 100.0% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 8 minutes 17 seconds eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.03, MET: Kazaross XG2
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