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Rollout: duration

Posted By: Stick
Date: Monday, 20 August 2012, at 11:24 p.m.

In Response To: Rollout: duration (Philippe Michel)

While I'll admit that in certain positions perhaps the rollout will be longer because of the score, what you suggest to me is out of this world. The main scores I would see taking longer would be those where the game needed to be played out to its conclusion more often than its money counterpart. There is really nothing to the position and there's no way in my mind AtS stuff added 30 minutes to a 5k rollout. A simple test below.

Same seed in both positions both run while I didn't touch anything on the computer. The AtS rollout took a whopping 12 seconds longer.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 125
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 94
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-B-bBBD-C---bB--a--cbcb---:0:0:1:00:0:0:3:0:10
Blue on roll, cube action?
Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take
Player Winning Chances: 74.47% (G:5.72% B:0.10%) 74.85% (G:5.70% B:0.10%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 25.53% (G:2.07% B:0.05%) 25.15% (G:2.14% B:0.06%)
Cubeless Equities +0.526 +1.066
Cubeful Equities
No double:+0.850 (-0.069)±0.009 (+0.841..+0.859)
Double/Take:+0.919±0.011 (+0.908..+0.929)
Double/Pass:+1.000 (+0.081)
Best Cube action: Double / Take
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 34522307
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 8 minutes 05 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.03






White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 125
5 point match
pip: 94
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-B-bBBD-C---bB--a--cbcb---:0:0:1:00:0:0:0:5:10
Blue on roll, cube action?
Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take
Player Winning Chances: 74.63% (G:5.47% B:0.11%) 75.00% (G:5.50% B:0.10%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 25.37% (G:2.07% B:0.05%) 25.00% (G:2.15% B:0.07%)
Cubeless Equities +0.524 +1.041
Cubeful Equities
No double:+0.830 (-0.049)±0.008 (+0.822..+0.838)
Double/Take:+0.879±0.010 (+0.870..+0.889)
Double/Pass:+1.000 (+0.121)
Best Cube action: Double / Take
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 34522307
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 8 minutes 17 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.03, MET: Kazaross XG2

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