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Proposal for Stick
Posted By: Henrik Bukkjaer In Response To: Proposal for Stick (Dmitriy Obukhov)
Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2012, at 6:48 a.m.
Dmitriy, I'm not sure which part of my post you are asking for confirmation of, so here goes for all of them:
In this thread:
http://www.bgonline.org/forums/webbbs_config.pl?noframes;read=110728Perry Gartner writes:
IBC Safeguards
Perry Gartner <Perry@brennerintl.com> -- Sunday, 11 December 2011, at 12:23 a.m.
The IBC has promulgated the most stringent safeguards for the prevention of cheating in the history of online backgammon match play. Perhaps you and the community at large are not aware of all of these safeguards.
Several organizations were not invited to participate in the IBC because of their director's reputation in regard to ethical conduct or enforcement of ethical standards.
Each Federation is required to designate a proctor to physically be present for each match held with any of their players. The name of this proctor, in each instance, is forwarded to the IBC Director and Organizing Committee for final vetting. Each opponent has the right to select one member of the public to be present in the location where his opponent is going to play.
Players are encouraged to play in public facilities such as clubs rather than in homes. As in other online tournaments,matches are recorded and subject to review for evidence of cheating.
The applicable rules are spelled out on the IBC site.
No on can deny cheating is alway a possibility, but these safeguards make it unlikely that cheating will be part of our landscape.
Perry Gartner
Member of the Organizing Committee, IBC
In this thread, Stick posts the results of the US Qualifier, as the TD:
http://www.bgonline.org/forums/webbbs_config.pl?noframes;read=107209Finally, this link will show you that Stick did not participate himself:
http://gamercafe.com/tourney/flight.php?flightid=6819
(Keep in mind that he was the TD).Best regards,
Henrik BukkjaerPS:
...matches are recorded and subject to review for evidence of cheating.I wonder how a review of a recorded match could serve as evidence of cheating. Would that require a PR of 0.0 to count. Or would a sustained error rate in the tournament below half of that players otherwise observed and recorded live error rate have served as circumstantial evidence of cheating?
My point being, we should be very careful when calling out cheaters based on evidence that is circumstantial or evidence that are not even made public (hearsay). We should also be careful how much weight we put on rules and procedures, defined to prevent cheating - in the meaning that if some players pattern seem to trigger such rules, it might not be 100% certain that the player cheats.
Consequently, we should be open to discuss patterns that could indicate possible foul play, and do so with respect for the individuals involved, and with a "presumed innocent until proven guilty" thought in mind. IN ALL CASES.
Thus, when David Wells asks what now seems to be a legit question, the initial response from a community like this, should not be instant condemnation or judgement, but neither should it be the opposite, immediately requiring all threads to be closed, etc. The approach should be openminded, objective and fair, since the subject is one that can prove very difficult to draw any conclusions about.
I never thought any of such consideration was given to PJT when his "case" was discussed (even when it turned out that it was Alex, not PJT who was playing foul play). Not that the two cases bear any resemblances otherwise as far as the alleged cheating.
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