Below, I've added a third position to Igor's pair. The first position is the original where best play is 13/9* 11/9. In the second, Igor moved White's blot on White's 23 point to White's midpoint. Best play changed to 8/4* 6/4. In the third, I moved White's blot on the White's 23 point to White's 6 point. Now the two plays are very close:

              
 
              
 | | White is Player 2
score: 0 pip: 139 | Unlimited Game Jacoby | pip: 128 score: 0
Blue is Player 1 | | | XGID=-Aa-a-DCBa-BcB---bAc---bb-:0:0:1:42:0:0:1:0:10 | | | 1. | Rollout1 | 13/9* 11/9 | eq: +0.219 | | Player: Opponent: | 58.49% (G:12.71% B:0.72%) 41.51% (G:17.59% B:0.80%) | Conf.: ± 0.018 (+0.202...+0.237) - [100.0%] Duration: 4 minutes 14 seconds |
| | 2. | Rollout1 | 7/1 | eq: +0.168 (-0.052) | | Player: Opponent: | 56.14% (G:14.99% B:0.89%) 43.86% (G:15.67% B:0.34%) | Conf.: ± 0.013 (+0.154...+0.181) - [0.0%] Duration: 4 minutes 11 seconds |
| | 3. | Rollout1 | 8/4* 6/4 | eq: +0.147 (-0.072) | | Player: Opponent: | 56.31% (G:19.46% B:1.23%) 43.69% (G:20.52% B:0.59%) | Conf.: ± 0.014 (+0.133...+0.161) - [0.0%] Duration: 3 minutes 32 seconds |
| | | 1 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 9899315 Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
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 | | White is Player 2
score: 0 pip: 129 | Unlimited Game Jacoby | pip: 128 score: 0
Blue is Player 1 | | | XGID=-A--a-DCBa-BdB---bAc---bb-:0:0:1:42:0:0:1:0:10 | | | 1. | Rollout1 | 8/4* 6/4 | eq: +0.020 | | Player: Opponent: | 52.45% (G:16.79% B:0.68%) 47.55% (G:21.00% B:0.64%) | Conf.: ± 0.011 (+0.009...+0.030) - [100.0%] Duration: 3 minutes 14 seconds |
| | 2. | Rollout1 | 13/9* 11/9 | eq: -0.012 (-0.032) | | Player: Opponent: | 52.65% (G:11.64% B:0.55%) 47.35% (G:20.34% B:0.90%) | Conf.: ± 0.015 (-0.027...+0.003) - [0.0%] Duration: 4 minutes 00 second |
| | 3. | Rollout1 | 7/1 | eq: -0.116 (-0.136) | | Player: Opponent: | 48.22% (G:11.67% B:0.52%) 51.78% (G:15.95% B:0.33%) | Conf.: ± 0.010 (-0.126...-0.106) - [0.0%] Duration: 3 minutes 54 seconds |
| | | 1 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 9899315 Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
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                                  | | Position ID: G57BEQTBuzGDAA Match ID: cAkKAAAAAAAA
| | | # | Ply | Move | Equity | | • | 1 | R | 13/9* 11/9 | -0.088 | | | | 0.507 | 0.106 | 0.004 | - | 0.493 | 0.212 | 0.009 | -0.097 | -0.088 | | 0.001 | 0.001 | 0.000 | - | 0.001 | 0.001 | 0.000 | 0.003 | 0.007 | | | | | Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. | | | | 2593 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 692956370 and quasi-random dice | | | | Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | | | | keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | | | | Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | | | | Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | | | | 2 | R | 8/4* 6/4 | -0.090 ( -0.002) | | | | 0.491 | 0.147 | 0.005 | - | 0.509 | 0.230 | 0.007 | -0.102 | -0.090 | | 0.001 | 0.001 | 0.000 | - | 0.001 | 0.001 | 0.000 | 0.002 | 0.005 | | | | | Full cubeful rollout with var.redn. | | | | 2592 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 692956370 and quasi-random dice | | | | Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | | | | keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | | | | Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | | | | Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | | |
Messages In This Thread
- DQ ("Donkey Question") cover, hit something or what?
leobueno -- Wednesday, 3 October 2012, at 6:32 p.m.
- DQ ("Donkey Question") cover, hit something or what?
Igor -- Wednesday, 3 October 2012, at 7:19 p.m.
- DQ ("Donkey Question") cover, hit something or what?
Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 3 October 2012, at 7:51 p.m.
- DQ ("Donkey Question") cover, hit something or what?
ah_clem -- Thursday, 4 October 2012, at 4:05 p.m.
- RO + Variant
Igor -- Thursday, 4 October 2012, at 10:56 p.m.
- RO + Variant
Daniel Murphy -- Friday, 5 October 2012, at 12:20 a.m.
- RO + Variant
Daniel Murphy -- Saturday, 6 October 2012, at 4:02 a.m.
- RO of more variants
Igor -- Friday, 5 October 2012, at 4:43 a.m.
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