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Posted By: Stick
Date: Thursday, 29 November 2007, at 11:01 a.m.

In Response To: Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother (Stick)

I will finish this off to 15k trials but for now 12k will do so I can post it before leaving for CA. I don't like the stodge of 13/8, I preferred 24/20 6/5 prior to the rollout. I'll come back to this when I have more time, a lot of good points have been mentioned, time to sum them up and see which points actually weigh in the heaviest.
gnubg 161

user 163
Position ID: 4PPgASiwZ/ABMA Match ID: cIkQAAAAAAAA

# Ply Move Equity

1 R 13/8 +0.2427

0.5547 0.1688 0.0065 - 0.4453 0.1164 0.0053 +0.1629 +0.2427

0.0005 0.0006 0.0002 - 0.0005 0.0005 0.0001 0.0013 0.0038

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

12182 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1022034599 and quasi-random dice

Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

2 R 13/9 6/5 +0.2360 ( -0.0067)

0.5523 0.1730 0.0071 - 0.4477 0.1216 0.0063 +0.1569 +0.2360

0.0005 0.0007 0.0002 - 0.0005 0.0005 0.0001 0.0015 0.0039

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

12182 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1022034599 and quasi-random dice

Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

• 3 R 24/20 6/5 +0.2305 ( -0.0122)

0.5541 0.1538 0.0066 - 0.4459 0.1134 0.0043 +0.1508 +0.2305

0.0005 0.0006 0.0002 - 0.0005 0.0005 0.0001 0.0014 0.0036

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

12181 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1022034599 and quasi-random dice

Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

4 R 6/2*/1* +0.2303 ( -0.0124)

0.5465 0.1939 0.0058 - 0.4535 0.1249 0.0062 +0.1616 +0.2303

0.0006 0.0006 0.0002 - 0.0006 0.0006 0.0002 0.0015 0.0040

Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.

12181 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1022034599 and quasi-random dice

Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16

Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.

Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

gnubg	161

user	163
Position ID: `4PPgASiwZ/ABMA` Match ID: `cIkQAAAAAAAA`

Messages In This Thread

Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
Stick -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 1:05 p.m.
- Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
  Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 2:06 p.m.
  - Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
    RobertFontaine -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 3:44 p.m.
- Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
  happyjuggler0 -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 4:44 p.m.
- Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
  Keene -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 5:35 p.m.
  - Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 9:55 p.m.
- Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
  Caryl Stephanson -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 5:43 p.m.
- Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
  Caryl Stephanson -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 5:46 p.m.
- Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
  Ian Shaw -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 6:00 p.m.
  - Nactation for the candidate moves
    Stick -- Wednesday, 28 November 2007, at 1:22 a.m.
    - What a relief :x
      happyjuggler0 -- Wednesday, 28 November 2007, at 1:41 a.m.
      - What a relief :x
        Caryl Stephanson -- Thursday, 29 November 2007, at 2:34 a.m.
        
        What a relief :x
        happyjuggler0 -- Thursday, 29 November 2007, at 4:22 a.m.
        
        What a relief :x
        Caryl Stephanson -- Thursday, 29 November 2007, at 10:08 p.m.
    - Nactation for the candidate moves
      Steve Mellen -- Wednesday, 28 November 2007, at 1:51 a.m.
      - Nactation for the candidate moves
        Stick -- Wednesday, 28 November 2007, at 1:58 a.m.
        
        Nactation for the candidate moves
        Daniel Murphy -- Wednesday, 28 November 2007, at 5:39 p.m.
        
        Nactation for the candidate moves
        Stick -- Wednesday, 28 November 2007, at 6:30 p.m.
    - Nactation for the candidate moves
      Marty Storer -- Wednesday, 28 November 2007, at 4:09 p.m.
      - Nactation for the candidate moves
        Dave -- Wednesday, 28 November 2007, at 5:11 p.m.
- Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
  neilkaz -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 6:30 p.m.
  - Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
    pontiac -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 8:13 p.m.
    - 13/9 is not that risky here.
      neilkaz -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 8:23 p.m.
      - 13/9 is not that risky here.
        happyjuggler0 -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 8:41 p.m.
        
        13/9 is not that risky here.
        neilkaz -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 8:54 p.m.
        
        13/9 is not that risky here.
        Steve Mellen -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 9:00 p.m.
        
        13/9 is not that risky here.
        Marty Storer -- Wednesday, 28 November 2007, at 3:35 p.m.
- Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
  David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 27 November 2007, at 7:58 p.m.
  - Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
    Stick -- Wednesday, 28 November 2007, at 12:42 a.m.
    - Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
      David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 28 November 2007, at 8:38 p.m.
- Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
  Chuck Bower -- Wednesday, 28 November 2007, at 4:02 p.m.
- Nope, you're wrong, don't even bother
  garyo -- Wednesday, 28 November 2007, at 6:22 p.m.
- Rollout
  Stick -- Thursday, 29 November 2007, at 11:01 a.m.
  - Rollout
    pontiac -- Thursday, 29 November 2007, at 11:44 a.m.
    - Rollout
      Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 29 November 2007, at 2:30 p.m.
      - Rollout
        pontiac -- Thursday, 29 November 2007, at 2:54 p.m.
  - Rollout
    happyjuggler0 -- Thursday, 29 November 2007, at 4:44 p.m.
    - Rollout
      Steve Mellen -- Friday, 30 November 2007, at 2:48 p.m.
    - Rollout
      Stick -- Tuesday, 4 December 2007, at 8:38 p.m.
  - Rollout
    Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 29 November 2007, at 9:15 p.m.
  - 31P-51S-41 — Index to Rollouts — 2013-Feb-26
    Taper_Mike -- Wednesday, 27 February 2013, at 6:32 a.m.
    - 31P-51S-41 — Index to Rollouts — 2013-Feb-26
      David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 27 February 2013, at 1:09 p.m.
      - 31P-51S-41 — Index to Rollouts — 2013-Feb-28
        Taper_Mike -- Thursday, 28 February 2013, at 8:44 p.m.

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