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random vs. non-random rolls

Posted By: Timothy Chow
Date: Tuesday, 19 March 2013, at 5:51 p.m.

In Response To: random vs. non-random rolls (Stick)

A good cheat would cheat only occasionally and only when you weren't on your guard. The example you cite was either an innocent player or a poor cheat.

What Brett says is consistent with what I have heard from other sleight-of-hand artists. If you're a skilled artist yourself, and you're making an effort to pay attention, and the cheat is cheating often enough and in the same way, then you'll probably detect even a skilled cheat eventually, but there's certainly no guarantee that you'll always notice when "the move" is being made.

People who think they can detect world-class cheats without actually making a serious effort to master the technique are like people who think they're world-class backgammon players but have never had their play analyzed by a bot.

Here's a nice exercise, by the way. Check out this magic routine. Even if you know how it's done, I maintain that he performs the moves so naturally that you're not going to be tipped off by the "unnaturalness" of his motions. And he's performing the effect over and over again.

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  Chuck Bower -- Friday, 15 March 2013, at 1:29 p.m.
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    stw672 -- Friday, 15 March 2013, at 2:52 p.m.
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    Bob Koca -- Friday, 15 March 2013, at 5:39 p.m.
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    Colin Owen -- Friday, 15 March 2013, at 6:28 p.m.
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    Phil Simborg -- Friday, 15 March 2013, at 10:41 p.m.
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      Art Grater -- Friday, 15 March 2013, at 11:56 p.m.
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      backgame -- Friday, 15 March 2013, at 11:57 p.m.
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        Phil Simborg -- Saturday, 16 March 2013, at 2:00 a.m.
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          Brett Meyer -- Monday, 18 March 2013, at 1:57 a.m.
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            Art Grater -- Monday, 18 March 2013, at 6:55 a.m.
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              Brett Meyer -- Monday, 18 March 2013, at 3:27 p.m.
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                Stick -- Monday, 18 March 2013, at 4:22 p.m.
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                  Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 19 March 2013, at 5:51 p.m.
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                    Stick -- Tuesday, 19 March 2013, at 6:06 p.m.
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                      Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 20 March 2013, at 12:22 a.m.
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                        Stick -- Wednesday, 20 March 2013, at 5:49 a.m.
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                          Timothy Chow -- Friday, 22 March 2013, at 12:33 a.m.
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                    Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 19 March 2013, at 7:56 p.m.
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                      mamabear -- Tuesday, 19 March 2013, at 8:24 p.m.
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                      Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 20 March 2013, at 12:29 a.m.
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                      Art Grater -- Wednesday, 20 March 2013, at 9:35 p.m.
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                    mamabear -- Tuesday, 19 March 2013, at 8:20 p.m.
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            Colin Owen -- Monday, 18 March 2013, at 12:41 p.m.
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        Jason Lee -- Saturday, 16 March 2013, at 4:01 p.m.
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    Chuck Bower -- Saturday, 16 March 2013, at 3:03 p.m.
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      Daniel Murphy -- Saturday, 16 March 2013, at 5:21 p.m.
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    Casper van der Tak -- Sunday, 17 March 2013, at 3:24 a.m.