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4 ply and rollout

Posted By: neilkaz
Date: Sunday, 3 February 2008, at 9:46 p.m.

In Response To: OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd (Stick)

The lesson here is that an race at an even pip with 100 vs 100 is about 57.5% cubeless for the side on roll. So, we do better by increasing the varience a bit with some contact. I have an huge race db so no huge rollout needed.

The score (after 0 games) is: gnubg 1, user 0 (match to 3 points)

Move number 4: user to play 66

Pip counts: gnubg 104, user 128
Position ID: 5pwzBgDsNsEYCA Match ID: cAl7ABAAAAAA

#		Ply	Move	Equity
	1	R	22/10 13/7(2)	-0.1646
			0.4341 0.0040 0.0001 - 0.5659 0.0026 0.0000 -0.1299 -0.1646 0.0014 0.0006 0.0000 - 0.0014 0.0006 0.0003 0.0030 0.0072
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			311 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1049564416 and quasi-random dice
			Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	22/10 16/10(2)	-0.2002 ( -0.0356)
			0.4275 0.0001 0.0000 - 0.5725 0.0000 0.0000 -0.1448 -0.2002 0.0006 0.0001 0.0001 - 0.0006 0.0008 0.0002 0.0013 0.0049
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			311 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1049564416 and quasi-random dice
			Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	4	22/16 13/1 13/7	-0.1886 ( -0.0241)
			0.4390 0.0049 0.0000 - 0.5610 0.0034 0.0000
	4	4	22/16 13/7(2) 8/2	-0.1900 ( -0.0254)
			0.4385 0.0050 0.0000 - 0.5615 0.0030 0.0000
	5	4	22/4 8/2	-0.2011 ( -0.0365)
			0.4349 0.0051 0.0000 - 0.5651 0.0046 0.0001

Messages In This Thread

• OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd
  Stick -- Saturday, 2 February 2008, at 1:36 p.m.
  • OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd
    Bill Riles -- Saturday, 2 February 2008, at 2:30 p.m.
  • OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd
    misja -- Saturday, 2 February 2008, at 4:02 p.m.
  • OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd
    neilkaz -- Saturday, 2 February 2008, at 4:15 p.m.
  • OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd
    John Little -- Saturday, 2 February 2008, at 7:17 p.m.
  • OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd
    Dan Pelton -- Saturday, 2 February 2008, at 7:31 p.m.
  • OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd
    Ian Shaw -- Saturday, 2 February 2008, at 10:46 p.m.
  • OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd
    myshlev -- Saturday, 2 February 2008, at 11:40 p.m.
  • OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd
    Daniel Murphy -- Sunday, 3 February 2008, at 1:22 a.m.
    • agreed *NM*
      lucky player -- Sunday, 3 February 2008, at 4:12 a.m.
  • OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd
    adambulldog -- Sunday, 3 February 2008, at 2:23 a.m.
  • OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd
    Chuck Bower -- Sunday, 3 February 2008, at 2:38 a.m.
  • OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd
    Stein Kulseth -- Sunday, 3 February 2008, at 6:59 p.m.
  • OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd
    Caryl Stephanson -- Sunday, 3 February 2008, at 7:46 p.m.
  • 4 ply and rollout
    neilkaz -- Sunday, 3 February 2008, at 9:46 p.m.
  • OLM Sat. Feb. 2nd
    garyo -- Tuesday, 5 February 2008, at 5:02 a.m.