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Posted By: Stick
Date: Wednesday, 2 April 2008, at 5:13 a.m.

In Response To: Pitt DMP play (Stick)

Watching this match I felt very strongly OtB that the best play had not even been considered. I felt, and still feel for that matter, that the best way to win is 8/5* 6/4* and would do it in a shot even after seeing that the top two plays are tied. The 4 prime gives 1s, 5s, and 6s, leaving the middle numbers which can mostly be played comfortably with White's spare.

6/4* 6/3 creates 6 immediate bad sixes, 61, 62, 65. Also unstacking the top heavy six point and making the 3pt, which is too deep for my tastes at this juncture, appears not to be all bad. OtB 8/5* 6/4* wasn't even considered because Rory is a honkey ... and even upon showing this problem to some ppl the play wasn't considered. A big theme this weekend in Pitt, perhaps all weekends just now I'm becoming more aware of it, are missed plays. Everyone seems to be catching the Bower Syndrome.

The score (after 0 games) is: user 0, gnubg 0 (match to 1 point, post-Crawford play)

user	128
gnubg	129
Position ID: 2LYdAAXEt2MBIA Match ID: cAktAAAAAAAA

#		Ply	Move	Equity
•	1	R	8/5* 6/4*	-0.5012
			0.2494 0.0606 0.0151 - 0.7506 0.4885 0.1971 -0.5012 -0.5012 0.0048 0.0040 0.0026 - 0.0048 0.0094 0.0095 0.0096 0.0096
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1159 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1053045669 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	2	R	6/4* 6/3	-0.5023 ( -0.0011)
			0.2488 0.0865 0.0215 - 0.7512 0.3152 0.0701 -0.5023 -0.5023 0.0026 0.0049 0.0031 - 0.0026 0.0084 0.0062 0.0053 0.0053
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			1158 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1053045669 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
	3	R	12/9 11/9	-0.5947 ( -0.0935)
			0.2026 0.0570 0.0054 - 0.7974 0.3418 0.0633 -0.5947 -0.5947 0.0048 0.0076 0.0023 - 0.0048 0.0208 0.0098 0.0097 0.0097
			Full cubeful rollout with var.redn.
			248 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 1053045669 and quasi-random dice
			Play: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]
			keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 12 more moves within equity 0.16
			Skip pruning for 1-ply moves.
			Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class]

Messages In This Thread

• Pitt DMP play
  Stick -- Tuesday, 1 April 2008, at 3:00 p.m.
  • Pitt DMP play
    Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 1 April 2008, at 3:05 p.m.
    • Pitt DMP play
      John Little -- Tuesday, 1 April 2008, at 4:26 p.m.
      • Pitt DMP play
        garyo -- Wednesday, 2 April 2008, at 5:56 a.m.
  • Pitt DMP play
    Keene -- Tuesday, 1 April 2008, at 3:16 p.m.
  • Pitt DMP play
    neilkaz -- Tuesday, 1 April 2008, at 3:35 p.m.
  • Pitt DMP play
    John O'Hagan -- Tuesday, 1 April 2008, at 3:51 p.m.
    • Pitt DMP play
      Keene -- Tuesday, 1 April 2008, at 5:49 p.m.
  • Pitt DMP play
    pontiac -- Tuesday, 1 April 2008, at 6:06 p.m.
  • Rollout
    Stick -- Wednesday, 2 April 2008, at 5:13 a.m.
    • Bower Syndrome
      garyo -- Wednesday, 2 April 2008, at 5:54 a.m.
      • Bower Syndrome
        garyo -- Wednesday, 2 April 2008, at 5:55 a.m.