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Another Kauder Paradox

Posted By: Taper_Mike
Date: Monday, 19 September 2016, at 10:44 p.m.

In Response To: Another Kauder Paradox (Albert Steg)

Thanks for sharing this. Obviously, these positions are rare enough that they do not warrant too much study. Nevertheless, they carry a fascination for me.

When TerryPin posted the following Kauder Paradox at TwoPlusTwo, Bill Robertie wrote the following:

Is this a Beaver?

There are a few positions which are both correct doubles and correct beavers. It's called the "Kauder Paradox", and was postulated about 35 years ago.

Positions that satisfy the Kauder Paradox usually fit these conditions:

1) Cube in the middle, Jacoby rule in effect.

2) Black on roll wins 30%-35% of the time. (Black has a single direct shot to win.)

3) When Black wins, he mostly wins a gammon.

4) When Black misses his immediate shot, he gets doubled out.

Bill Robertie
Source: TwoPlusTwo

While I do not agree with all of that, I think the main points are often correct. More generally, Black needs winning chances that are somewhere in the range 30% to 50%, and enough gammons wins to make it worthwhile to activate them. The position TerryPin posted is interesting because the rollout shows him winning a majority of all games, and yet his equity is still negative.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 70
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 80
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-BBBBCB-A-----a-b--bad-cbA:0:0:1:00:0:0:3:0:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No double Double/Take
  Player Winning Chances: 50.443% (G:14.570% B:0.216%) 50.326% (G:17.609% B:0.308%)
  Opponent Winning Chances: 49.557% (G:0.746% B:0.006%) 49.674% (G:0.734% B:0.006%)
  Cubeless Equities +0.1492 +0.3566
Cubeful Equities
No double:-0.1823 (-0.0125)±0.0005 (-0.1828..-0.1818)
Double/Beaver:-0.1697±0.0021 (-0.1718..-0.1677)
Double/Pass:+1.0000 (+1.1697)
 
Best Cube action: Double / Beaver
Rollout details
31104 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 29924256
Moves and cube decisions: 4-ply
Search interval: Large
 
Double Decision confidence:100.0%
Take Decision confidence:100.0%
Duration: 59 minutes 45 seconds

Rollout by Taper_Mike
2013-Jun-29
eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10.199.2658
Kauder Paradox
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/138/backgammon/beaver-1346782/

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

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