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Bearoff Problem #2 - Rollout and VARIANT

Posted By: Nack Ballard
Date: Wednesday, 1 November 2017, at 7:49 p.m.

In Response To: Bearoff Problem #2 - Rollout (Stick)

		White is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 146 Unlimited Game Jacoby Beaver pip: 37 score: 0 Blue is Player 1
XGID=-AbaDD-a--------ba-bbb-b--:1:-1:1:11:0:0:3:0:10
Original position

1.	Rollout1	5/4(4)	eq: +1.253
	Player: Opponent: 79.91% (G:63.51% B:10.83%) 20.09% (G:0.00% B:0.00%) Conf.: ± 0.014 (+1.239...+1.268) - [100.0%] Duration: 1 minute 42 seconds
2.	Rollout1	5/3* 4/3 1/Off	eq: +1.217 (-0.036)
	Player: Opponent: 78.08% (G:61.85% B:13.49%) 21.92% (G:0.00% B:0.00%) Conf.: ± 0.010 (+1.207...+1.227) - [0.0%] Duration: 1 minute 52 seconds
1 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 24436117 Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

Above is Stick's rollout of his original position.

Below is a dramatically contrasting variant. The margin for the 4pt-stack play swings from +.036 to –.177.

		White is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 146 Unlimited Game Jacoby Beaver pip: 36 score: 0 Blue is Player 1
XGID=-AbaEC-a--------ba-bbb-b--:1:-1:1:11:0:0:3:0:10
Variant (Compared to the original, Blue is adjusted 5/4)

1.	Rollout1	5/3* 4/3 1/Off	eq: +1.270
	Player: Opponent: 79.45% (G:63.88% B:13.53%) 20.55% (G:0.00% B:0.00%) Conf.: ± 0.011 (+1.260...+1.281) - [100.0%] Duration: 3 minutes 08 seconds
2.	Rollout1	5/4(3) 1/Off	eq: +1.099 (-0.172)
	Player: Opponent: 75.29% (G:57.87% B:12.32%) 24.71% (G:0.00% B:0.00%) Conf.: ± 0.015 (+1.083...+1.114) - [0.0%] Duration: 3 minutes 32 seconds
3.	Rollout1	4/3*(3) 1/Off	eq: +1.085 (-0.185)
	Player: Opponent: 75.21% (G:58.84% B:11.11%) 24.79% (G:0.00% B:0.00%) Conf.: ± 0.013 (+1.072...+1.098) - [0.0%] Duration: 3 minutes 37 seconds
1 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction. Dice Seed: 13417452 Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

Below is another way to express the same (contrasting) variant. The 4pt-stacking play is demonstrably wrong.

Nack

		White is Player 2 score: 0 pip: 146 Unlimited Game Jacoby Beaver pip: 36 score: 0 Blue is Player 1
XGID=--baDD-a--------ba-bbb-b--:0:0:1:11:0:0:3:0:10
Same variant, by transposition (Compared to the original, Blue is adjusted 1/off)

Messages In This Thread

• Bearoff Problem #2
  Stick -- Tuesday, 31 October 2017, at 6:10 a.m.
  • Bearoff Problem #2
    ah_clem -- Tuesday, 31 October 2017, at 3:35 p.m.
  • Bearoff Problem #2
    Karol Szczerek -- Wednesday, 1 November 2017, at 7:53 a.m.
    • Bearoff Problem #2
      neilkaz -- Wednesday, 1 November 2017, at 3:19 p.m.
  • Bearoff Problem #2 - Rollout
    Stick -- Wednesday, 1 November 2017, at 5:11 p.m.
    • Bearoff Problem #2 - Rollout and VARIANT
      Nack Ballard -- Wednesday, 1 November 2017, at 7:49 p.m.
    • Stronger RO coming
      Bob Koca -- Thursday, 2 November 2017, at 6:26 a.m.
    • 4 ply RO shows differently
      neilkaz -- Saturday, 4 November 2017, at 2:44 a.m.
      • XGR+/XGR+ RO shows differently
        Stick -- Saturday, 4 November 2017, at 5:50 a.m.
        • XGR+/XGR+ RO shows differently
          neilkaz -- Saturday, 4 November 2017, at 2:34 p.m.
          • 5 ply RO
            Colin Owen -- Sunday, 5 November 2017, at 9:52 p.m.
            • 5 ply RO
              Stick -- Sunday, 5 November 2017, at 10:25 p.m.
              • 5 ply RO
                Colin Owen -- Sunday, 5 November 2017, at 10:56 p.m.
                • 5 ply RO
                  Stick -- Sunday, 5 November 2017, at 11:19 p.m.
                  • 5 ply RO
                    Colin Owen -- Sunday, 5 November 2017, at 11:32 p.m.
        • longer RO
          Bob Koca -- Saturday, 4 November 2017, at 9:15 p.m.
          • oops, I need to read.
            Bob Koca -- Saturday, 4 November 2017, at 9:18 p.m.
            • UBK, wrong as always
              Stick -- Monday, 6 November 2017, at 7:08 a.m.
              • UBK, wrong as always
                Tom Keith -- Monday, 6 November 2017, at 12:42 p.m.
              • Bearoff Problem #2 Further RO
                Colin Owen -- Wednesday, 22 November 2017, at 4:11 p.m.
                • Bearoff Problem #2 Further RO
                  Stick -- Wednesday, 22 November 2017, at 8:17 p.m.
                  • Bearoff Problem #2 Further RO
                    Colin Owen -- Thursday, 23 November 2017, at 1:40 a.m.
                    • Bearoff Problem #2 Further RO
                      Barry Murphy -- Thursday, 23 November 2017, at 5:01 p.m.
          • 3K RO XGR+ Gigantic SI
            neilkaz -- Monday, 6 November 2017, at 12:49 p.m.
          • longer RO
            leobueno -- Monday, 6 November 2017, at 10:58 p.m.