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Match contact. RO.

Posted By: Karol Szczerek
Date: Sunday, 5 November 2017, at 10:02 a.m.

In Response To: Match contact. (Stick)

The correct play wasn't even on my radar.





White is Player 2

score: 6
pip: 59
13 point match
pip: 97
score: 3

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-BBBBBB--------b--BAbcccb-:2:1:1:65:3:6:0:13:10
Blue to play 65

1.Rollout118/7eq: -0,510
Player:
Opponent:
20,78% (G:0,93% B:0,03%)
79,22% (G:9,99% B:0,18%)
Conf.: ± 0,001 (-0,512...-0,509) - [100,0%]
Duration: 46,0 seconds
2.Rollout119/8eq: -0,545 (-0,034)
Player:
Opponent:
19,70% (G:0,58% B:0,01%)
80,30% (G:0,80% B:0,00%)
Conf.: ± 0,002 (-0,547...-0,543) - [0,0%]
Duration: 46,1 seconds
3.Rollout118/13 18/12eq: -0,573 (-0,063)
Player:
Opponent:
19,79% (G:0,43% B:0,01%)
80,21% (G:3,82% B:0,02%)
Conf.: ± 0,002 (-0,575...-0,572) - [0,0%]
Duration: 48,2 seconds
1 2592 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2

Understanding match equities at lopsided scores, especially at high cube values is quite important. I was underestimating this for a long time (as well as DMP). This mistake above is not just a minor 0.034 error, it's a 0.75% MWC one - almost as high as in DMP.

Like you said, the recube value is enormous AtS:





White is Player 2

score: 6
pip: 51
13 point match
pip: 86
score: 3

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-BBBBBBA---------aAAbdccb-:2:1:1:00:3:6:0:13:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take
Player Winning Chances: 55,30% (G:1,58% B:0,02%) 55,60% (G:1,24% B:0,02%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 44,70% (G:0,01% B:0,00%) 44,40% (G:0,66% B:0,00%)
Cubeless Equities +0,127 +0,574
Cubeful Equities
No redouble:+0,164 (-0,410)±0,001 (+0,163..+0,165)
Redouble/Take:+0,574±0,002 (+0,572..+0,575)
Redouble/Pass:+1,000 (+0,426)
Best Cube action: Redouble / Take
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:100,0%
Take Decision confidence:100,0%
Duration: 9,9 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2

Yes, it's already correct to double even after a 64:





White is Player 2

score: 6
pip: 49
13 point match
pip: 92
score: 3

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-BBBBBBA----------AabdccbA:2:1:1:00:3:6:0:13:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take
Player Winning Chances: 31,23% (G:0,88% B:0,02%) 31,27% (G:0,68% B:0,02%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 68,77% (G:10,29% B:0,02%) 68,73% (G:13,50% B:0,01%)
Cubeless Equities -0,425 -0,377
Cubeful Equities
No redouble:-0,403 (-0,027)±0,001 (-0,405..-0,402)
Redouble/Take:-0,377±0,002 (-0,378..-0,375)
Redouble/Pass:+1,000 (+1,377)
Best Cube action: Redouble / Take
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:100,0%
Take Decision confidence:100,0%
Duration: 25,3 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2

At -5/-13 it would be a pass after 62 and a giant double after 64.

Also, for reference, a variant of original position for money:





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 59
Unlimited Game
pip: 97
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=-BBBBBB--------b--BAbcccb-:2:1:1:65:0:0:0:0:10
Blue to play 65

1.Rollout119/8eq: -0,584
Player:
Opponent:
19,74% (G:0,56% B:0,01%)
80,26% (G:0,25% B:0,00%)
Conf.: ± 0,002 (-0,585...-0,582) - [100,0%]
Duration: 37,7 seconds
2.Rollout118/13 18/12eq: -0,623 (-0,040)
Player:
Opponent:
19,84% (G:0,51% B:0,01%)
80,16% (G:3,93% B:0,01%)
Conf.: ± 0,001 (-0,624...-0,622) - [0,0%]
Duration: 36,8 seconds
3.Rollout118/7eq: -0,650 (-0,066)
Player:
Opponent:
21,04% (G:0,95% B:0,02%)
78,96% (G:10,24% B:0,10%)
Conf.: ± 0,001 (-0,651...-0,648) - [0,0%]
Duration: 31,6 seconds
1 2592 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

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