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3a 4a cube action - proto-backgame
Posted By: Bob Koca In Response To: 3a 4a cube action - proto-backgame (Michael)
Date: Thursday, 4 January 2018, at 3:51 p.m.
"No, what I think is that usually market losers and winning percentages go hand in hand".
If it is a backgame and there is no immediate double shot where is the market loser?
"Think of it this way: Assuming the game would turn out to 40-60 with 20% vs 55% gammons. Clearly white's Match winning chances are <40% because of the gmmmons. The redouble brings it to 40% sharp hence a clear gain in equity."
What you say is clear is just wrong. You are incorrectly analyzing it as a double now or never situation.
How do you explain the following rollout result? An opponent's 54 is a market loser. The backgame players gammon rate is 4.0% which is less than your proposed 20%. That argues FOR doubling compared to your 20% since he is killing less of his own gammons. The attackers gammon rate is 62.5% which is more than your proposed 55%. That also argues FOR doubling since more of the opponent's gammons are killed. The win percentage is 44.1% which is more than your proposed 40% which also argues FOR doubling. Everything from your proposed situation moves it towards the double being correct but the rollout shows doubling is an error.
White is Player 2
score: 1
pip: 684 point match pip: 171
score: 0
Blue is Player 1XGID=-B-BB-B----------CbbddBcB-:1:1:1:00:0:1:0:4:10 Blue on roll, cube action?
Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take Player Winning Chances: 43.939% (G:1.992% B:0.058%) 44.056% (G:1.770% B:0.041%) Opponent Winning Chances: 56.061% (G:34.338% B:13.984%) 55.944% (G:34.964% B:14.065%) Cubeless Equities -0.3907 +0.2320 Cubeful Equities No redouble: +0.2448 ±0.0071 (+0.2377..+0.2519) Redouble/Take: +0.2320 (-0.0128) ±0.0073 (+0.2247..+0.2393) Redouble/Pass: +1.0000 (+0.7552) Best Cube action: No redouble / Take Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 1.6% Rollout details 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 39052828
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 99.3% Take Decision confidence: 100.0% Duration: 42 minutes 22 seconds eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2
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