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Backgame cube action - ROLLOUTS

Posted By: Karol Szczerek
Date: Wednesday, 31 January 2018, at 9:55 p.m.

In Response To: Backgame cube action (Karol Szczerek)

Thanks for all the input.
OP is a no redouble AtS.





White is Player 2

score: 2
pip: 28
13 point match
pip: 137
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=---CBBBB------A----b-aAfB-:1:1:1:00:0:2:0:13:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take
Player Winning Chances: 66,54% (G:0,00% B:0,00%) 67,87% (G:0,00% B:0,00%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 33,46% (G:18,10% B:2,86%) 32,13% (G:18,09% B:3,84%)
Cubeless Equities +0,121 +0,423
Cubeful Equities
No redouble:+0,432±0,005 (+0,427..+0,437)
Redouble/Take:+0,359 (-0,074)±0,012 (+0,347..+0,370)
Redouble/Pass:+1,000 (+0,568)
Best Cube action: No redouble / Take
Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 10,3%
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:100,0%
Take Decision confidence:100,0%
Duration: 4 minutes 14 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2

Moving white's blot back 1 pip to the 5pt still doesn't make it a redouble.





White is Player 2

score: 2
pip: 29
13 point match
pip: 137
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=---CBBBB------A----ba-AfB-:1:1:1:00:0:2:0:13:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take
Player Winning Chances: 69,46% (G:0,00% B:0,00%) 70,71% (G:0,00% B:0,00%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 30,54% (G:14,34% B:2,11%) 29,29% (G:14,52% B:2,76%)
Cubeless Equities +0,224 +0,608
Cubeful Equities
No redouble:+0,560±0,006 (+0,554..+0,565)
Redouble/Take:+0,538 (-0,021)±0,012 (+0,526..+0,550)
Redouble/Pass:+1,000 (+0,440)
Best Cube action: No redouble / Take
Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 4,4%
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:99,9%
Take Decision confidence:100,0%
Duration: 5 minutes 32 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2

Back to the OP, if we change the score to 4-0/13, the redouble is correct.





White is Player 2

score: 4
pip: 28
13 point match
pip: 137
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=---CBBBB------A----b-aAfB-:1:1:1:00:0:4:0:13:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take
Player Winning Chances: 66,56% (G:0,00% B:0,00%) 67,86% (G:0,00% B:0,00%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 33,44% (G:18,14% B:3,00%) 32,14% (G:18,30% B:4,92%)
Cubeless Equities +0,130 +0,538
Cubeful Equities
No redouble:+0,470 (-0,032)±0,005 (+0,464..+0,475)
Redouble/Take:+0,502±0,011 (+0,491..+0,514)
Redouble/Pass:+1,000 (+0,498)
Best Cube action: Redouble / Take
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:100,0%
Take Decision confidence:100,0%
Duration: 8 minutes 47 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2

If we upgrade the cube to 4, so redoubling puts it at 8, XG calculates we should go for it even at 0-0/13. I guess it's because gammon value is reduced for white due to match limit.





White is Player 2

score: 0
pip: 28
13 point match
pip: 137
score: 0

Blue is Player 1
XGID=---CBBBB------A----b-aAfB-:2:1:1:00:0:0:0:13:10
Blue on roll, cube action?

Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take
Player Winning Chances: 66,66% (G:0,00% B:0,00%) 67,88% (G:0,00% B:0,00%)
Opponent Winning Chances: 33,34% (G:18,31% B:3,99%) 32,12% (G:18,58% B:8,75%)
Cubeless Equities +0,128 +0,564
Cubeful Equities
No redouble:+0,460 (-0,054)±0,005 (+0,455..+0,465)
Redouble/Take:+0,514±0,011 (+0,503..+0,524)
Redouble/Pass:+1,000 (+0,486)
Best Cube action: Redouble / Take
Rollout details
1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
Double Decision confidence:100,0%
Take Decision confidence:100,0%
Duration: 5 minutes 53 seconds

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2

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