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Backgame cube action - ROLLOUTS
Posted By: Karol Szczerek In Response To: Backgame cube action (Karol Szczerek)
Date: Wednesday, 31 January 2018, at 9:55 p.m.
Thanks for all the input.
OP is a no redouble AtS.
White is Player 2
score: 2
pip: 2813 point match pip: 137
score: 0
Blue is Player 1XGID=---CBBBB------A----b-aAfB-:1:1:1:00:0:2:0:13:10 Blue on roll, cube action?
Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take Player Winning Chances: 66,54% (G:0,00% B:0,00%) 67,87% (G:0,00% B:0,00%) Opponent Winning Chances: 33,46% (G:18,10% B:2,86%) 32,13% (G:18,09% B:3,84%) Cubeless Equities +0,121 +0,423 Cubeful Equities No redouble: +0,432 ±0,005 (+0,427..+0,437) Redouble/Take: +0,359 (-0,074) ±0,012 (+0,347..+0,370) Redouble/Pass: +1,000 (+0,568) Best Cube action: No redouble / Take Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 10,3% Rollout details 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 100,0% Take Decision confidence: 100,0% Duration: 4 minutes 14 seconds eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2
Moving white's blot back 1 pip to the 5pt still doesn't make it a redouble.
White is Player 2
score: 2
pip: 2913 point match pip: 137
score: 0
Blue is Player 1XGID=---CBBBB------A----ba-AfB-:1:1:1:00:0:2:0:13:10 Blue on roll, cube action?
Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take Player Winning Chances: 69,46% (G:0,00% B:0,00%) 70,71% (G:0,00% B:0,00%) Opponent Winning Chances: 30,54% (G:14,34% B:2,11%) 29,29% (G:14,52% B:2,76%) Cubeless Equities +0,224 +0,608 Cubeful Equities No redouble: +0,560 ±0,006 (+0,554..+0,565) Redouble/Take: +0,538 (-0,021) ±0,012 (+0,526..+0,550) Redouble/Pass: +1,000 (+0,440) Best Cube action: No redouble / Take Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 4,4% Rollout details 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 99,9% Take Decision confidence: 100,0% Duration: 5 minutes 32 seconds eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2
Back to the OP, if we change the score to 4-0/13, the redouble is correct.
White is Player 2
score: 4
pip: 2813 point match pip: 137
score: 0
Blue is Player 1XGID=---CBBBB------A----b-aAfB-:1:1:1:00:0:4:0:13:10 Blue on roll, cube action?
Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take Player Winning Chances: 66,56% (G:0,00% B:0,00%) 67,86% (G:0,00% B:0,00%) Opponent Winning Chances: 33,44% (G:18,14% B:3,00%) 32,14% (G:18,30% B:4,92%) Cubeless Equities +0,130 +0,538 Cubeful Equities No redouble: +0,470 (-0,032) ±0,005 (+0,464..+0,475) Redouble/Take: +0,502 ±0,011 (+0,491..+0,514) Redouble/Pass: +1,000 (+0,498) Best Cube action: Redouble / Take Rollout details 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 100,0% Take Decision confidence: 100,0% Duration: 8 minutes 47 seconds eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2
If we upgrade the cube to 4, so redoubling puts it at 8, XG calculates we should go for it even at 0-0/13. I guess it's because gammon value is reduced for white due to match limit.
White is Player 2
score: 0
pip: 2813 point match pip: 137
score: 0
Blue is Player 1XGID=---CBBBB------A----b-aAfB-:2:1:1:00:0:0:0:13:10 Blue on roll, cube action?
Analyzed in Rollout No redouble Redouble/Take Player Winning Chances: 66,66% (G:0,00% B:0,00%) 67,88% (G:0,00% B:0,00%) Opponent Winning Chances: 33,34% (G:18,31% B:3,99%) 32,12% (G:18,58% B:8,75%) Cubeless Equities +0,128 +0,564 Cubeful Equities No redouble: +0,460 (-0,054) ±0,005 (+0,455..+0,465) Redouble/Take: +0,514 ±0,011 (+0,503..+0,524) Redouble/Pass: +1,000 (+0,486) Best Cube action: Redouble / Take Rollout details 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG RollerDouble Decision confidence: 100,0% Take Decision confidence: 100,0% Duration: 5 minutes 53 seconds eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2
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