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Frustrating Rolls

Posted By: TarHeelFan
Date: Saturday, 4 August 2018, at 2:35 p.m.

In Response To: Frustrating Rolls (Matt Ryder)

Some of your examples point up why I prefer Karol's definition. I think I hurt my argument when I started talking about zero legal hits without using both dice. That really isn't part of the definition, and would only apply when there is a checker on the bar. I was using it more to point out a weakness/ambiguity in the "single number from one die" language in the definition from bkgm.com.

If we look at the "roll a single die" definition, your examples 2 and 3 would not be direct shots. The rest would.

Note that under this definition, it is not possible to concoct a "direct shot" with zero hits, since you can always hit with the appropriate doublet, if nothing else. In fact, Ray confirms this by saying the fewest shot is 3. I would love to try to find a position where you can only hit with the doublet, but I now have no need to, since I will always believe Ray on this sort of thing.

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• Frustrating Rolls
  Marv Porten -- Sunday, 29 July 2018, at 11:39 p.m.
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    Bob Koca -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 10:54 a.m.
    • Frustrating Rolls
      ah_clem -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 1:40 p.m.
      • Frustrating Rolls
        Carlo Melzi -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 2:14 p.m.
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      Carlo Melzi -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 2:31 p.m.
      • Frustrating Rolls
        Mike Clapsadle -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 3:03 p.m.
        • Frustrating Rolls
          Ray Kershaw -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 4:41 p.m.
    • Frustrating Rolls
      Karol Szczerek -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 5:35 p.m.
      • Frustrating Rolls
        Karol Szczerek -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 5:40 p.m.
    • Frustrating Rolls
      Tom Keith -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 5:49 p.m.
      • Frustrating Rolls
        TarHeelFan -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 6:08 p.m.
        • Frustrating Rolls
          Tom Keith -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 6:14 p.m.
          • Frustrating Rolls
            Karol Szczerek -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 6:21 p.m.
            • Frustrating Rolls
              Tom Keith -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 6:28 p.m.
              • Frustrating Rolls
                Mike Clapsadle -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 11:31 p.m.
                • Frustrating Rolls
                  Matt Ryder -- Thursday, 2 August 2018, at 3:53 p.m.
                  • Frustrating Rolls
                    TarHeelFan -- Thursday, 2 August 2018, at 9:05 p.m.
                    • Frustrating Rolls
                      Matt Ryder -- Friday, 3 August 2018, at 4:28 a.m.
                      • Frustrating Rolls
                        TarHeelFan -- Friday, 3 August 2018, at 12:59 p.m.
                        • Frustrating Rolls
                          Marv Porten -- Friday, 3 August 2018, at 4:38 p.m.
                          • Frustrating Rolls
                            TarHeelFan -- Friday, 3 August 2018, at 7:36 p.m.
                            • Frustrating Rolls
                              Ray Kershaw -- Sunday, 5 August 2018, at 9:28 p.m.
                        • Frustrating Rolls
                          Matt Ryder -- Saturday, 4 August 2018, at 7:19 a.m.
                          • Frustrating Rolls: Errata
                            Matt Ryder -- Saturday, 4 August 2018, at 7:27 a.m.
                            • Frustrating Rolls: More Errata
                              Matt Ryder -- Saturday, 4 August 2018, at 7:56 a.m.
                          • Frustrating Rolls
                            TarHeelFan -- Saturday, 4 August 2018, at 2:35 p.m.
                            • Frustrating Rolls
                              Matt Ryder -- Sunday, 5 August 2018, at 8:37 a.m.
                              • Frustrating Rolls
                                TarHeelFan -- Sunday, 5 August 2018, at 6:22 p.m.
                                • Frustrating Rolls
                                  Mike Clapsadle -- Sunday, 5 August 2018, at 9:25 p.m.
                                  • Frustrating Rolls
                                    TarHeelFan -- Sunday, 5 August 2018, at 9:42 p.m.
                                    • Frustrating Rolls
                                      Mike Clapsadle -- Sunday, 5 August 2018, at 11:01 p.m.
                                    • Frustrating Rolls
                                      Mike Clapsadle -- Sunday, 5 August 2018, at 11:03 p.m.
                          • Frustrating Rolls
                            Mike Clapsadle -- Sunday, 5 August 2018, at 12:14 p.m.
  • Frustrating Rolls
    neilkaz -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 4:01 p.m.
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      Marv Porten -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 5:55 p.m.
  • Another Frustrating Roll
    Marv Porten -- Monday, 30 July 2018, at 10:06 p.m.
    • Another Frustrating Roll
      neilkaz -- Tuesday, 31 July 2018, at 5:04 p.m.
      • Another Frustrating Roll
        Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 31 July 2018, at 6:46 p.m.
        • Another Frustrating Roll
          neilkaz -- Tuesday, 31 July 2018, at 6:48 p.m.
          • Another Frustrating Roll
            Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 31 July 2018, at 10:04 p.m.
            • Another Frustrating Roll
              Colin Owen -- Tuesday, 31 July 2018, at 10:32 p.m.
            • Another Frustrating Roll
              neilkaz -- Wednesday, 1 August 2018, at 2:52 a.m.
  • Frustrating Roll from 7-31-18 WC Match
    Marv Porten -- Tuesday, 31 July 2018, at 7:03 p.m.
  • Robbed
    Nack Ballard -- Friday, 3 August 2018, at 2:04 a.m.